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Old 10-16-2005, 01:39 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Mr. Carrol,

Can you help me out? I can't seem to tell exactly what notes are sounding on the piano when I'm playing different pitches in to the piano.

When the pedal is down, does the trumpet note act as the fundamental and then just activate the fundamental and all overtones with the fundamental being the most present sound?

What about when certain keys are depressed without the pedal?

How come playing into the piano while flutter tonguing (as best I can...sounds like a machine gun) causes louder resonance/possibly different notes?

Thanks much for your time reading this topic!
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Old 10-21-2005, 11:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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J,

Sorry that I missed replying to your question. I'm on the road tomorrow through Monday and will try to answer you as soon as the dust settles...

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Old 10-22-2005, 03:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
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J,

... thinking about this instead of sleeping (obsessed? moi?)

When you depress the sustain pedal on the piano and play a note on the trumpet into it, every harmonic series that has that particular note in it will resonate (mostly the fundamental and then the high harmonics, thus very bright, as all notes are found in the higher harmonics).

If a limited number of keys are depressed and a note is played into the piano by the trumpeter, the notes that will resonate will be those that fall into the harmonic series of this smaller sub-set of pitches (darker than the above).

I can only speculate as to the reasons that a flutter-tongued note will resonate longer than a single pitch. Could it be because the multiple tongue repeatedly excites the harmonics? (not unlike a roll on the timpani rather than a single note). Opinions, acousticians?

Cool piece, don't you think?

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Old 10-22-2005, 08:39 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I got to hear Hakan perform this live last night at the U of Chicago - AMAZING!

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Old 10-23-2005, 04:23 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Romey,

Sequenza X has been in Hakan's repertoire for some time now and I agree that it's VERY effective both from a listening and programming perspective.
Great to hear that he's touring it and that you heard him play it.

Many of us are afraid of Sequenza X because, at first glance, the challenge of learning it seems daunting -- 6 pages of black notes! I've found, however, that if you break each individual cell down and work it through that way that's it's not that hard to play, and believe that the addition to your repertoire of such an interesting piece (by a MAJOR composer -- we like to whine that we don't have Beethoven, etc., to play) is well worth the effort.

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Old 10-23-2005, 08:55 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Yeah, it does seem rather daunting from a listening perspective. Maybe I'll check out the music. Here's the rest of his program from Friday night.

1. Honegger Intrada
2. Enesco Legende
3. Hindemith Sonata

Intermission

4. Berio Sequenza X
5. Ravel 2 Selections from Miroirs for Solo Piano (chop break!)
6. Ligeti Mysteries of the Macabre

Encore: Goedicke Concert Etude (at light speed)!!!!

I got to speak to him briefly at a masterclass he gave at Northwestern the next morning, and he commented on how his chops felt like $hit the whole night. I never would have known..................

The masterclass really showed what an exceptional teacher he is. Hakan was able to pinpoint what each student was missing in their "package" and helped steer them in the right direction trumpet playing-wise AND MOST importantly MUSICALLY!

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Old 10-25-2005, 06:51 AM   #17 (permalink)
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He did the same recital (complete with same encore!) here a few days before. The room he was in was really really dry, so he didn't pound anything out in the first half. The Berio and Ligeti were simply stunning.

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Yeah, it does seem rather daunting from a listening perspective. Maybe I'll check out the music. Here's the rest of his program from Friday night.

1. Honegger Intrada
2. Enesco Legende
3. Hindemith Sonata

Intermission

4. Berio Sequenza X
5. Ravel 2 Selections from Miroirs for Solo Piano (chop break!)
6. Ligeti Mysteries of the Macabre

Encore: Goedicke Concert Etude (at light speed)!!!!

I got to speak to him briefly at a masterclass he gave at Northwestern the next morning, and he commented on how his chops felt like $hit the whole night. I never would have known..................

The masterclass really showed what an exceptional teacher he is. Hakan was able to pinpoint what each student was missing in their "package" and helped steer them in the right direction trumpet playing-wise AND MOST importantly MUSICALLY!

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Old 10-25-2005, 04:20 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Jack,

No doubt. I'm interested in why you called the Berio & Ligeti stunning. Would you mind taking a minute to tell us?

Mysteries of the Macabre, by the way, was arranged by Garry Howarth -- quite the trumpeter himself once-upon-a-time.

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Old 10-26-2005, 02:26 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Mr. Carrol,

Thanks so much for the help...back into the cave I emerged from to check the site.

I'll digest and keep everyone informed of anything else I find.

Thanks!
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Mysteries of the Macabre, by the way, was arranged by Garry Howarth -- quite the trumpeter himself once-upon-a-time.
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Do you know if this piece is available for sale? Maybe even the score? I have a recording of it and the piece is just breathtaking, but I always figured that it was rental only, as much new music is...
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