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| Mezzo Forte User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: PHOENIX, AZ
Posts: 926
| Trent, In case you missed it... this was posted some time ago... http://www.gabrielecassone.it/home.php You'll never hear the P5-4 give you this sound. |
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| Artist in Residence ![]() Piano User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: new york
Posts: 454
| I haven't played the B-burg since college (yes, it was a LONG time ago), but I had what I considered to be the perfect horn: a Yamaha long bell piccolo in C. (All the high A's obviously became high G's, and it puts the 3rd movement in the key of F.) I sold it years ago and wish I hadn't. I wasn't a great axe, but it worked great for that piece. Tony |
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| Mezzo Piano User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Scottsdale, AZ.
Posts: 578
| At a lesson with Uan Rasey he saw my Picc. in the quad case I brought to my lesson..."Have you played Brandenburg on it?" He then played the last movment for me....on his Bflat...very light, flute like..I've heard Allen Vizzutti do much the same thing.... |
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| Artist in Residence ![]() Forte User
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NH/CA/PQ
Posts: 1,384
![]() | Guys, I've purposefully stayed out of this discussion for the reasons illustrated above. Trumpet and mouthpiece choice are very personal issues and best solved by experimentation, not by following another player's advice. I played the Brandenburg over a hundred times back in the 70s and 80s on a Schilke P54 and a very small mouthpiece that Ren Schilke made for me. Others thought that the mouthpiece was the secret to my success and when they tried it but bottomed out after 3 or 4 notes. Cassone plays a rather deep replica of a Baroque (cup with a hole drilled in it -- no throat) mouthpiece on his nat and sounds like a flute. Everyone should find his/her own way. Cheers from sunny and HOT SoCal, EC |
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| Moderator ![]() Forte User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Boston, MA
Brand: they have brand names? ;)
Posts: 1,405
![]() ![]() | I'm finding I can greatly color my sound with the 3C even though the Stork 7P makes the notes pop a bit more. I'm trying to make those high phrases sound like a flute (ie easy). The notes are there but so is the intensity. eek... much work to be done. Thanks again for all the comments. Best, T |
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__________________ Trent Austin Van Laar B4, Kanstul Mariachi 990, Vintage Conns (6A, 28A, 36B, 38B)...Wedge 3 series mouthpieces http://www.trentaustin.com http://www.onlinejazzimprovisation.com http://www.myspace.com/trentaustinmusic http://www.putfile.com/jazzmanta check out the new clips I added 6/11/08 | |
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| Mezzo Forte User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: PHOENIX, AZ
Posts: 926
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PS... the 2 baroque pieces I own (Egger and Naumann) are basically that... a cup with a hole drilled into it... Cheers from a VERY HOT Phoenix, AZ... wanna trade? | |
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| Artist in Residence ![]() Forte User
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NH/CA/PQ
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![]() | Rog, I love performances of Baroque music on the nat and, in fact, since the moment I moved to Europe in 1986 I haven't heard a single one in a major concert venue (or on a serious label) played on the piccolo. Since I wasn't around "back in the day" (my kids would argue) I can't say with certainty what Herr Reiche and others actually sounded like, but the bloom of overtones present in the longer "natural" instrument compliment the other soloists so beautifully that this is what I hope Bach's trumpeter sounded like. Gabri is incredible. He buzzes with core/resonance to double C on his mouthpiece and plays with flute-like effortlessness in the clarino register. As do many others, I might add. The nat was required of all trumpet majors at the Royal Academy of Music when I was teaching in London (and probably still is today). The level of achievement after 2 years of study was remarkable and the best of them played as effortlessly as (name your icon). If you're serious about Baroque music, learn the nat. Best, EC |
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| Pianissimo User | Hi Trent. I have the very horn for you!!!! My custom picc was especialy built for playing number 2 on by Mark Bennet, one of the finest piccolo specialists from the UK. It is a long model, straight picc with a chopped down Schertzer rotary valve section and a pure copper seamless bell made by Wedgewood with a spring loaded bell tuning slide. The lead pipe is from a Getzen. The instrument has had some egonomic and cosmetic alterations made by Leigh and is beautifully finished in the signature 1st Class brass scratched and polished 24 carrat gold. It is a real showmans trumpet - looks incredible and sounds as sweet as sugar. It is way to good for most of the work I do on picc in studios and as a treble in shows. This instrument belongs on stage. I could arrange a loan, although this instrument will be up for sale just as soon as Leigh can complete my order for a new Eclipse picc! ;) I guess that the component parts and construction costs of this instrument add up to in excess of £4000 - it is a beauty! Congrats on your new dealership by the way. I hope the production line will be able to cope with the huge demand that I'm sure you will be creating. All the best. Noel. |
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__________________ Noel Langley - Eclipse Artist noel@eclipsetrumpets.com Eclipse Medium Yellow, scratch gold Eclipse Medium Heavy Red, custom 'Diamond Back' in 24ct gold Eclipse Red Brass Flugel Custom Scherzer piccolo with copper Wedgewood bell, finished in scratch gold Giardinelli 6S, 6M, 6FL Bach 3CW | |
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| Pianissimo User | I do have a picture but don't know how to post it. Help please? Noel. |
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__________________ Noel Langley - Eclipse Artist noel@eclipsetrumpets.com Eclipse Medium Yellow, scratch gold Eclipse Medium Heavy Red, custom 'Diamond Back' in 24ct gold Eclipse Red Brass Flugel Custom Scherzer piccolo with copper Wedgewood bell, finished in scratch gold Giardinelli 6S, 6M, 6FL Bach 3CW | |
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