robertwhite

I'm just sticking with my major teachers - otherwise this is going to start to look like the Mormon library.

Scott Thornburg - Gil Johnson (S. Hering, S. Krauss), Vacchiano (Schlossberg), Broiles (Vacchiano)

Stephen Burns - Ghitalla (Vacchiano), Vacchiano (Schlossberg), Schwarz (Vacchiano), Thibaud (Foveau), Arnold Jacobs.

John Rommel - Leon Rapier (?), Louis Davidson (Schlossberg), William Adam (Harold Mitchell, Hy Lammers, a bunch of others).

ecarroll

Trent,

Thanks for introducing projecting more biology into the mix. Trumpeters become very inbred, don't they? It's a wonder that we have survived as a species.

. . .thus your teacher "tree" would read:
EC, grandteacher Schilke, great-grandteacher Llewellyn or any of the other (Cichowicz/Vacchiano/Schwarz) variants.

You've studied with other teachers, however. Fess up and let's read the history, ok?

Best,
EC
ps: nice av

PH

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Alex Yates

My teachers and their lineage.

Leon Rapier (Saul Caston, Sam Krauss)

James Thompson (Roger Voisin, Georges Mager, Merri Franquin - Paris Conservatory)

Barbara Butler (Vincent Chicowicz/Adolf Herseth, Georges Mager)

Leon Petre (Maurice Andre', Theo Charlier)

* Mager also taught Bernard Adelstein who is one of my all time favorite orchestral players.

B15M

My first teacher was Dick Green at the Neighbor Hood Music School in New Haven Ct. His teacher was Robert Nagel

My next teacher was in college, Ray Crisara who studied with Ernest Williams.

Ray left for Texas and Jimmy Burke took over. I don't know who he studied with.

After a long break and the biggest influence on my playing is Charlie Schlueter who studied with William Vacciano.

It's funny, listening to Charlie teach is almost the same as listing to Ray. It's been a long time since I was listening to Ray but my point is that Ray and Charlie were probably taught around the same time with teachers that taught the same ideas.

I don't have any students but I am always telling other players what Charlie teaches me.

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trumpetnick

Hi Ed!
The teachers who were minor to me (I spent less time with them) are probably best known and those I spent more time are probably not so famous. So there they are:
Major Teachers

My teacher at the Fribourg Conservatoire was
Jean-Francois MICHEL (former principal trumpet with the Munich Philharmonic by the time of the late Celibidache)
Royal Northern College of Music - Murray Greig and John Miller

Minor Teachers/Masterclasses and private lesson

Rod Franks - though I had just few lessons with him I consider him as very influential to my playing

Hakan Hardenberger

Erich Rinner - Former assistant principal with Munich Philharmonic by the same time as Jean-Francois Michel)

James Watson

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ecarroll

Nick,

Your teachers are very interesting (I know many of them) but I'm asking who their teachers were and, if you'll do the research, who the teachers of your "grandteachers" were.

There's a point to this...you'll see.

Best,
EC

trumpetnick

Ed, Thanks for clarifying this. It may sound funny, but I never asked J.F. Michel who were his trumpet teachers, so I don't know.

As far as the others are concerned...

Rod Franks - he studied with Maurice Muprhy (with whom I had also a very interesting lesson once when Rod was in the hospital) in some North West University but cannot remember which one.

John Miller: I know that he studied with Vacchiano after winning some scholarship which enabled him to go to US to study with him. I have no idea which were his teachers in UK

Hakan Hardenbegrer studied with Bo Nilson and Pierre Thibaud

For the other I have no information.

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trumpetmike

Main teacher/influence - Richard Martin. Not sure of everyone who he studied with, but one of those was Phil Parker.

This led to a lovely moment when I was in Phil Parkers with a student, who was trying out trumpets. He was doing some long note/airflow exercises and Phil Parker Snr. came in. He asked where this kid had got them from, he pointed to me. I said that Richard had used them with me and he laughed - my student had his great grandteacher listening to him playing the exercises that had been passed through the generations