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Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 10:37 PM

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Re: Choosing an Eclipse for me
« Reply #9 on: 10/29/2003 at 05:51:09 »

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Hi Tootsall. When I was at college several of my peers had a Bach conversion done on their Shilkes. In other words they put a Bach 37 or 25 bell on to a Shilke bodt - either as a tunable bell or fixed bell conversion. Maybe they were after the same playing characteristics you are looking for.
As far as recommending an Eclipse package to you, I have to say that my comments will only be my personal feelings about the horns. If you are in the least bit curious then you really need to try them out for yourself - I am certain that you will be shocked at how well they play!
All of the Eclipse trumpets have a very light and free blowing feel with a fast response and a solid, stable core to the sound - as you have requested. In my experience with Shilkes, which is limited (although I did have a blow on Jon Faddis's horn during a lesson with him - he made it sound a lot better than I did BTW), I find that the sound spreads out too much for my personal taste. With the Eclipse find that - no matter how hard you work it - the sound does not break up, disperse or lose shape. All the energy you put into the horn seems to project forward and transfer to the listener. This is true more so for the medium bell rather than the larger bells which generally have a larger sound and will take more air - I find that they also have larger slots, you can bend and shape the notes more.
As I don't know your playing I will have to take my best guess as to what you might like. I am thinking that either the large red or the medium red bell might give you the balance of sound and agility that you are looking for - depending on how you play.
However I usually recommend, when people come to try out the horns, that they start with a medium yellow in laquer or silver. This horn was the first Eclipse, the closest in shape and weight to the 'industry standard' and all the other options are variations on this theme. In this way the player can get a feel for the way the instruments respond, slot and project.
Needless to say, IMHO, any of the Eclipse trumpets would have something to offer you but as to whether you personally would find them an improvement over your current horns - you will have to find out for yourself.
All the best. Noel.

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Bruce Lee Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 463	noel New Member member is offline Gender: Posts: 15 Re: Choosing an Eclipse for me « Reply #9 on: 10/29/2003 at 05:51:09 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Tootsall. When I was at college several of my peers had a Bach conversion done on their Shilkes. In other words they put a Bach 37 or 25 bell on to a Shilke bodt - either as a tunable bell or fixed bell conversion. Maybe they were after the same playing characteristics you are looking for. As far as recommending an Eclipse package to you, I have to say that my comments will only be my personal feelings about the horns. If you are in the least bit curious then you really need to try them out for yourself - I am certain that you will be shocked at how well they play! All of the Eclipse trumpets have a very light and free blowing feel with a fast response and a solid, stable core to the sound - as you have requested. In my experience with Shilkes, which is limited (although I did have a blow on Jon Faddis's horn during a lesson with him - he made it sound a lot better than I did BTW), I find that the sound spreads out too much for my personal taste. With the Eclipse find that - no matter how hard you work it - the sound does not break up, disperse or lose shape. All the energy you put into the horn seems to project forward and transfer to the listener. This is true more so for the medium bell rather than the larger bells which generally have a larger sound and will take more air - I find that they also have larger slots, you can bend and shape the notes more. As I don't know your playing I will have to take my best guess as to what you might like. I am thinking that either the large red or the medium red bell might give you the balance of sound and agility that you are looking for - depending on how you play. However I usually recommend, when people come to try out the horns, that they start with a medium yellow in laquer or silver. This horn was the first Eclipse, the closest in shape and weight to the 'industry standard' and all the other options are variations on this theme. In this way the player can get a feel for the way the instruments respond, slot and project. Needless to say, IMHO, any of the Eclipse trumpets would have something to offer you but as to whether you personally would find them an improvement over your current horns - you will have to find out for yourself. All the best. Noel.