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Larry Gianni · 01-23-2004, 07:09 PM

Hi all,

Here are some updates:

Lee Thornberg

Lee Thornberg came to LA with a band called " Little Feat " with Lowell George.

Some other road credits he has are : Aaron Neville ( he has a home in New Orleans ), Nicolette Larson, Huey Lewis ( with TOP horns )

plus he recorded with all those band also, and was on the 2003 " PINK " - " try this " DVD/CD.

Lee is still one of the nicest people in the business. He is mostly self-taught mainly taking lesson back in his NY days and can really play great dixieland because of his stay in New Orleans.

New York Schilke Players:

Pre 70's, early 80's Schilke players in New York were few and far between. I've already talked about Jon Faddis and his contribution to the scene ( Schilke B6l-b 1970 to 1984 , S-42l-b 1985 to present , Schilke mouthpieces )

Lew Soloff , as mentioned before used a 14a4a early in his New York days for extreme lead playing.

Here are some players that are mainly post 1980 NY scene guys:

Mike Lawrence , out of NTSU ( pass away in early 80's ) used a Schilke X3 and a Schilke mouthpiece. Played lead for the Joe Henderson-Kenny Dorham Big Band in NY. also with Gil Evans . He was 35 years old in 1980.

Tom Barreca also played in the NY scene. Sometimes using a 43 bell / 43 lp Bach , but also a Schilke X3.
He studied with legends such as Ray Crisara, Jimmy Maxwell and Carmine Caruso. Tom would have been 32 years old in 1980

Cecil Bridgewater used a 14a4c mouthpiece on his Bach ML trumpet. Cecil is 37 years old in 1980

Joe Mosello came to New York using a Schilke B1, B3and a Schilke mouthpiece

Lyn Biviano used a B1l-b and a Schilke 6a4a plus a reeves suxtom mouthpiece also when he came to NY after his Maynard/ Basie days.

AS REFERENCE: Established player by age in 1980

Jimmy Maxwell - 63
Bernie Previn - 61
Snooky Young - 60 ( in Los Angeles by 1980 )
Clark Terry - 60
Ray Crisara - 60
Joe Newman - 58
Ernie Royal 57
Joe Moralle - 57
Dick Perry - 54
Doc Severinson - 53 ( in Los Angeles by 1980 )
Bob McCoy - 52
John Glassel - 50
Johnny Frosk - 49
Joe Shepley - 45

and our own TM member , Mr. Wilmer Wise who''l be - STOP - I'll let Wilmer fill in that blank if he wants to. To me, Mr Wise is one of the all time " New York Scene " greats and a gentleman to bout. this one is up to him.

The legendary Mr. Bernie Glow was born in 1926 and was 54 years old in 1980

by contrast:

Jon Faddis - 27 years old in 1980
Lew Soloff - 36 years old in 1980

both players had been on the " New York " scene for 6-8 years by 1980.

While researching Birth dates came up with a few more interesting ones

Arturo Sandoval - born 1949 - he'll be 55 years old in 2004
Maynard - born 1928 - he'll be 76 years old in 2004
Clifford Brown - born 1930 - he would have been 74 years young in 2004
Dizzy - born 1917 - he would have been 87 years young in 2004

Larry

PS - I picked 1980 as a cut-off date for the origianl post because it was apparant in the sound of the "New York " scene that the established sound of the trumpet was changing and it was a date that can be also compared to the " West Coast ' sound and it differences. Remember , all facts are based on 1980 research, thanks

PSS: All these birth dates were reasearched on the net, in books and by phone calls If you find any in error, please send me a PM on it , with the source , and I'll correct/edit the post and credit you with fixing the error.

thanks again and the " West Coast " half of what turned out to be a very imformative and fun thread will on your " TM net-shelves " soon.
got to make sure I cross all the "t's" and dot all the "i's " in this one, it's in my " neck of the woods "

Larry

Hey TM, some of your members wern't even born in 1980 - WOW!!! - what a mind blower.

01-23-2004, 07:09 PM	#35 (permalink)
Larry Gianni Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 266	New York Scene - veterans and rookies Hi all, Here are some updates: Lee Thornberg Lee Thornberg came to LA with a band called " Little Feat " with Lowell George. Some other road credits he has are : Aaron Neville ( he has a home in New Orleans ), Nicolette Larson, Huey Lewis ( with TOP horns ) plus he recorded with all those band also, and was on the 2003 " PINK " - " try this " DVD/CD. Lee is still one of the nicest people in the business. He is mostly self-taught mainly taking lesson back in his NY days and can really play great dixieland because of his stay in New Orleans. New York Schilke Players: Pre 70's, early 80's Schilke players in New York were few and far between. I've already talked about Jon Faddis and his contribution to the scene ( Schilke B6l-b 1970 to 1984 , S-42l-b 1985 to present , Schilke mouthpieces ) Lew Soloff , as mentioned before used a 14a4a early in his New York days for extreme lead playing. Here are some players that are mainly post 1980 NY scene guys: Mike Lawrence , out of NTSU ( pass away in early 80's ) used a Schilke X3 and a Schilke mouthpiece. Played lead for the Joe Henderson-Kenny Dorham Big Band in NY. also with Gil Evans . He was 35 years old in 1980. Tom Barreca also played in the NY scene. Sometimes using a 43 bell / 43 lp Bach , but also a Schilke X3. He studied with legends such as Ray Crisara, Jimmy Maxwell and Carmine Caruso. Tom would have been 32 years old in 1980 Cecil Bridgewater used a 14a4c mouthpiece on his Bach ML trumpet. Cecil is 37 years old in 1980 Joe Mosello came to New York using a Schilke B1, B3and a Schilke mouthpiece Lyn Biviano used a B1l-b and a Schilke 6a4a plus a reeves suxtom mouthpiece also when he came to NY after his Maynard/ Basie days. AS REFERENCE: Established player by age in 1980 Jimmy Maxwell - 63 Bernie Previn - 61 Snooky Young - 60 ( in Los Angeles by 1980 ) Clark Terry - 60 Ray Crisara - 60 Joe Newman - 58 Ernie Royal 57 Joe Moralle - 57 Dick Perry - 54 Doc Severinson - 53 ( in Los Angeles by 1980 ) Bob McCoy - 52 John Glassel - 50 Johnny Frosk - 49 Joe Shepley - 45 and our own TM member , Mr. Wilmer Wise who''l be - STOP - I'll let Wilmer fill in that blank if he wants to. To me, Mr Wise is one of the all time " New York Scene " greats and a gentleman to bout. this one is up to him. The legendary Mr. Bernie Glow was born in 1926 and was 54 years old in 1980 by contrast: Jon Faddis - 27 years old in 1980 Lew Soloff - 36 years old in 1980 both players had been on the " New York " scene for 6-8 years by 1980. While researching Birth dates came up with a few more interesting ones Arturo Sandoval - born 1949 - he'll be 55 years old in 2004 Maynard - born 1928 - he'll be 76 years old in 2004 Clifford Brown - born 1930 - he would have been 74 years young in 2004 Dizzy - born 1917 - he would have been 87 years young in 2004 Larry PS - I picked 1980 as a cut-off date for the origianl post because it was apparant in the sound of the "New York " scene that the established sound of the trumpet was changing and it was a date that can be also compared to the " West Coast ' sound and it differences. Remember , all facts are based on 1980 research, thanks PSS: All these birth dates were reasearched on the net, in books and by phone calls If you find any in error, please send me a PM on it , with the source , and I'll correct/edit the post and credit you with fixing the error. thanks again and the " West Coast " half of what turned out to be a very imformative and fun thread will on your " TM net-shelves " soon. got to make sure I cross all the "t's" and dot all the "i's " in this one, it's in my " neck of the woods " Larry Hey TM, some of your members wern't even born in 1980 - WOW!!! - what a mind blower.