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Larry Gianni · 01-28-2004, 09:10 PM

Hey Richtom,

Great post - very useful info.

Staying on the cloning / copying theme with a little different twist;

I've been on a couple , what we call, " sampling session " where you get a call for a recording session, you get the particulars and accept a recording session call from a union contractor , report the session , when you ask about the music you'll be playing you usually get a vague response like "Hey , you know, the music will be some easy horn section stuff , it will be easy money " I'm in Local 47 out in Los Angeles , Ok, the date is booked

Well, you show up with other players usually a trombone and a couple saxes, you all warm up together, but are then instructed to only have one player in the booth at a time . Trumpet first .( Everything really starts to stink now, bad gut feeling time ) You are recorded playing scales , up 2 octaves at different volumes, with different articulations and different rhythmic patterns, at different speeds , soft , loud , vibrato , no vibrato, etc. and you are paid for a full union session scale, and all along you realize that you have been sampled and by accepting the session, contractually obligated to perform any playing that is asked of you. without explanation or obligation by the client.

I can smell them early now just by the tone of the call, and turn them down, but they will find someone to do it . Talk about your copyright infringement. They now have you forever, to do what ever they want with your talents and never have to pay you another dime more.
Can't re-posess a "sound " can you.

As long as all parties are Union members their is nothing the Union can or will do about it. It one members Rights to make a living vs. my Rights to make a living, and I guess I just lost. I actually think the Union is banking on the" sampler " more than the "samplee " to win this battle of technology and keep paying there dues.

LG

Plus with recording technology as it is today, they can make Maynard sound like Maurice Andre and vise versa." MacArthur Park " played on a Selmer Piccolo trumpet anyone?

01-28-2004, 09:10 PM	#40 (permalink)
Larry Gianni Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 266	Sampling Hey Richtom, Great post - very useful info. Staying on the cloning / copying theme with a little different twist; I've been on a couple , what we call, " sampling session " where you get a call for a recording session, you get the particulars and accept a recording session call from a union contractor , report the session , when you ask about the music you'll be playing you usually get a vague response like "Hey , you know, the music will be some easy horn section stuff , it will be easy money " I'm in Local 47 out in Los Angeles , Ok, the date is booked Well, you show up with other players usually a trombone and a couple saxes, you all warm up together, but are then instructed to only have one player in the booth at a time . Trumpet first .( Everything really starts to stink now, bad gut feeling time ) You are recorded playing scales , up 2 octaves at different volumes, with different articulations and different rhythmic patterns, at different speeds , soft , loud , vibrato , no vibrato, etc. and you are paid for a full union session scale, and all along you realize that you have been sampled and by accepting the session, contractually obligated to perform any playing that is asked of you. without explanation or obligation by the client. I can smell them early now just by the tone of the call, and turn them down, but they will find someone to do it . Talk about your copyright infringement. They now have you forever, to do what ever they want with your talents and never have to pay you another dime more. Can't re-posess a "sound " can you. As long as all parties are Union members their is nothing the Union can or will do about it. It one members Rights to make a living vs. my Rights to make a living, and I guess I just lost. I actually think the Union is banking on the" sampler " more than the "samplee " to win this battle of technology and keep paying there dues. LG Plus with recording technology as it is today, they can make Maynard sound like Maurice Andre and vise versa." MacArthur Park " played on a Selmer Piccolo trumpet anyone?