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Old 02-10-2004, 12:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
Larry Gianni
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Terry

I was also on a large bore trumpet cycle in the 80's so I know what you mean. but with age came a little wisdom about volume /sound vs. bore size.

The S series Schilkes trumpets do have a different receiver that a reg schilke but still using a morse taper equation. I think that thye are shorter in length.

I happened to get some pieces for a S42 player by the name of Roger Ingram and had to have all of them sent back to Schilke , my friend Karl Hammond , and he actually soldered on sleeves and re-plated them for me to a standard schilke taper so they would fit the trumpets I usually play.

These were all heavy mass Schilke's and before they set in the Calicchio or Bach receiver, they would hit the long style Schilke blank, and not be able to seat in the receiver.So I understand the S42 mouthpiece / receiver situation very well.

I'd also like to thank Karl Hammond of Schilke for doing a fantastic job and taking care of this for me. Karl is one of my favorite mouthpiece makers and just put out a 3 piece schilke mouthpiece odular system to the public.

Terry , the bore size , as you know , has little to do with a really well balanced, efficient trumpet set-up using the tapered section of the trumpet ( leadpipe and bell - also the tuning slide at times ) to balance the resistance ( between leadpipe and bell ) in a trumpet so you get the maximum, quick response and big sound qualitiesthat all of us want, yet have a trumpet that can take the rigors of the job.

If you blew into 3 straight brass tubes that were .453 , .460 and .468. a couple of feet long , they would probably feel exactly the same. it's the manipulation of the tapers, ( yes , I know, brass thicknesses and metal alloys also play a part ) plus keeping the valve section dimensions to the highest critical dimensions possible that helps determines a trumpets
over all characteristics.

With trumpet playing getting harder and harder and more demands placed on us all, we are all looking for a efficient a set-up as possible without sacrificing a big, broad sound.


I like using the term efficiency to describe a well -balanced, well constructed and engineered trumpet. this goes for all brands , not just Calicchio's. I know the Eclipse line is unbelievably well crafted and the attention to detail is phenomenal.

As you probably know, Maynard and Cat Anderson played Conn 38b's for a long while in there careers, Cat never changed , and the bore size on that was .438

OH , I forgot to include a young Mic Gillette and Airman of Note lead trumpet and subsequent LA session player Paul Hubinon in that group as well.

Again, thanks for taking your time to inform us.

Lg

PS - A Schilke backbore that works well for me is the # 72 - which is not a standard offer.( It may be now with Karl's new modular system mouthpieces ) This is the backbore Jon Faddis ( among others ) played on when he started using the S42l in 1985. John subsequently changed to a 39L schilke backbore when he went to the heavy mass piece.

What I'm told is the Schilke #72 bb is similar to the Schilke B backbore , but with minor changes
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