Doc's Mount Vernon 5C rim is very unique. He told me Vincent Bach made it for him many years ago, and it feels great on my chops. Only problem is, I have not found another one close to it. Kanstul has a good copy of the Moount Vernon 5C, but it has more bite than Doc's. Doc has many different underpants fitted to his rim. Bach, Reeves, GR......I asked him if he would send his rim to Kanstul to get some copies and he said "no way".........
It's amazing Doc can play this rim, because it has more dings and pits in it than a Minnesota highway in winter........
Mike