| Wow Music you are a CHARACTER, especailly when you make statements like I am having a hard time determining why all the venom in some of these posts. When in reality you started by bashing two different trumpet sellers on this site yet your claim was the thread about "a credit plan". Mr. MC what part of the response are you really surprised at? defense is venom? The Eclipse has become ridiculously expensive, especially and the exchange rate between the US$ and the UK£ continues widen do to lower the dollar.
The Wild Thing can only be bought from Flip (no dealers), and is much more expensive than a ZeuS -- with a $200 dollar return fee.
ZeuS takes a back seat to none, IMO. The very best in horns AND some amazing finishes (Jack Kanstul finishes every post with how you can buy a horn from him -- we know, we know).
By your own admission you have never seen either of the mentioned horns nor have you played them, yet you can comment on them? Toward the end, you include a snipe at Mr. Kanstul whom has posted twice in the Zues forum and it was graciously answering a question. Many of the "manufacturers" on the TM boards are also forum moderators (or related). Flip, Tom, Jack ... etc. Alex is not..... and your point is what MC? These guys may be moderators of their own horn forums but that is the extent of their influence. You speak as if by being a moderator there is a greater sphere of influence which Alex does not posesses. (and Alex has never offered any behind the scenes suggestions for a post with his dealers in the Zues forum?.... nah, not Alex)
I am not a dealer nor am I beholding to one, (my only horn purchases have been a student trumpet, my Olds Ambassador and my sons pro quality Bach knockoff). I do know manufacturing and a little about trumpets through my own efforts.
You can have two tuning bows, one that could go on a Signature and one on a ZG, essentially they are identical. The mechanical process of manufacturing the pieces are indistinguishable. In reality, from experience in manufacturing where the cost really soars is in the finish and detail of the product. This process can be markedly different between two identical pieces. For example, in a standard line, everyone could possibly handle the soldering of the braces but I can promise you that Zig has only "his best" handle the Signature line braces. (this is just common sense) Its simple, there are degrees of quality and expertise. Zig won't use his highest paid employees on a resale line, unless the buyer is paying for the additional attention.
BTW, the Zues is probably one of the best instruments for it's price break, but the best ever? There will never be a concensus on that as long as two trumpet players are still breathing and own different horns, never. Buying trumpet is like dating, we all have different characteristics that we love and some we won't accept, while the next guy might love the things we couldn't stand, to each his own........... now, I think my next date is going to be British.
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