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butxifxnot · 07-20-2005, 07:59 PM

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I believe the reason no one has posted is because there is not a "set" fingering for the registers for which you inquire. For example, I play pedal C open, but others have more success with all three valves down.

In theory, open is the right fingering, but I can't even get out the note. I can hit it with 13...

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I play double high c with first valve while others play it open, 2nd, or even 3rd. I personally think to play in those registers with a clear, strong and well-defined sound, one must play on their particular equipment and find which fingerings most help them acheive their "sound". Hope this helps.

Well, yes, but also about tuning. In Rubank's method, he gives out some fingerings from high C to the F above it with preferred tuning (C# is 2, D is open, etc). That's all I was asking.

Pedal notes are definately one of the five most debated points as to playing the trumpet (pedals, tongue, embouchure placement, embouchure change in the upper register, anyone else have one?); thus, no matter what I say, somebody below me is bound to say, "NO! THIS IS THE CORRECT WAY!"

Anyways, for just one example, try arpeggiating

?? Nice word.

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down to pedal C by playing C in the staff followed by G, E, C, G, E, pedal C, and let the pedal C sink as flat as the G below or even lower.

How about the C below very sharp?

What I can do is sneak up on it with the mouthpiece: I take out the mouthpiece, buzz the note (I can buzz better than play, when it comes to those things), and slowly insert it in with an open fingering. It works it works it works...and then I lose it.

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Over time, you'll learn how to push the air harder (harder or faster, I don't know) up to pedal C open, and sometimes I can play pedal C# open. There's eight-bazillion ways to do this, so please nobody give me the "absolutely correct" speech.

I've seen a fingering chart before where it addressed pedal tones. It shaded the pedal tones and said that 'younger players' should finger every pedal tone 1-3. And it works. I can hit from pedal F down to pedal C and below a little. (The C an octave below pedal C (what is that C called??) I can hit fairly easily, open-wise, in comparison). It's nice and strong, too. Is there really an advantage to fingering the, quote, right way? Like, it is better in order to keep track of what note you are at, for instance?

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In terms of upper register fingering, it all depends on the intonation of the individual horn. On my horn, I can play every note above high E and every note in between open! On some horns, you'll want to play the high D open while on others you'll want to use 1, 13, or maybe another one that'll work. Double C I can play open the couple times I've played it, so it's all a relative game.

BTW, you can finger everything above high C open. The only thing you 'can't' is the double F#, and I'm sure you can cheat it out of the horn fairly easily.