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Old 11-26-2005, 10:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Debating, and regurgitating facts

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Anyways, the basic goal of knowledge is to get to the top level, correlation. It would seem then, that a great debater would want to correlate knowledge into an argument to create a nearly indisputable claim. However, it seems like not just forum posters, but politicians and other people especially are content debating on the rote level of things. For instance, I'll see someone state a claim and then quote someone or themselves, looking something like "blah blah blah, big unusual word, blah blah blah, word that no one uses anymore, blah blah blah." I may come in then and say something like, "Well you said this, but in fact over in this neck of the woods, things exist like this, not that, so how do you account for this scenario within your argument?" Then, I'll get the same regurgitated phrase back from the person, "no, your wrong, because blah blah blah, big unusual word, blah blah blah, word that no one uses anymore, blah blah blah. Get that?"
So are you frustated by overly simplistic arguments, or ones that use words you don't understand?

In my estimation, people become frustrated with debates when the side they're on appears to be losing the argument. While it's true some tactics can be frustrating in that they obscure the point, I usually hear people trying to be clear and reasoned in what they're getting across. Except for Sean Hannity.

Big words do not a false argument make. Buy a dictionary and learn how to hang!

Done, Done, Done, and Done. http://www.dictionary.com is very handy for starters, and reading it over ten times helps.


Sarcasm aside, it's not the big words that confuse me somehow. Where the big words come into play is that they are words that the person making the argument doesn't normally use, and you see the exact same phrase repeated time after time after time. I could swear that the last presidential debate was all that, throwing catchphrases at each other time and time again for instance, and any time I would ever try to go to a higher level of debate with someone and reason through the catchphrase, I'd have the same catchphrase thrown at me again. That's the stance where I make the argument from.
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