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rjzeller · 03-13-2006, 03:21 AM

OSU got a pretty good deal here. The retraction of all references to the prior final four and the payback sounds stiff, but like all things past, it really doesn't matter now.

What's important is they still get to play in the postseason, and the investigations are now ended and they can move on. There'll be some financial ramifications, which may damage some of their ability to fund other sports, but OSU basketball and football lives on.

So I partially agree with PerunaPete, though his comments were a bit over the top. Let's remember that the vast majority of these violations were reported by the University to the NCAA, and the university took immediate and harsh actions itself to address the problem. They launched their own investigation and penalized themselves for the violations -- including a self-imposed post-season ban last year, and the firing of their former coach. For the football teams, they dismissed a young man who was CLEARLY their best player in Clarrett. And they also suspended Troy Smith, who has proven himself invaluable to the team. I don't think anyone who watched the Texas game doubts that if Smith had played the prior bowl game and the first two games of the last season, OSU would have been beaten the Longhorns that game. THey cost themselves dearly by suspending him, and they knew that well in advance.

Nobody gets the death sentence because the coach discovers a kid is taking bribes and removes the kid from scholarship, or finds that another participated in an event that violated rules unknowingly and therefore suspends that kid for two extreemly crucial games.

And for basketball, the coach issued a loan to one student who never even attended the U, and helped setup free housing for another member of the team -- Boban Savovic. The coach and his assistance knew of these arrangements, no one else. WHen administration officials found out, they immediately addressed it. It was hardly a case of the university blatantly ignoring and covering up NCAA rules infractions. They removed the offending parties, imposed sanctions on themselves and launched an internal investigation, and immediately informed the NCAA and cooperated fully.

The theory that because they're so big they're immune, is a big rash when one considers how powerful SMU was when they received the "death penalty"...

03-13-2006, 03:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
rjzeller Forte User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 1,212	OSU got a pretty good deal here. The retraction of all references to the prior final four and the payback sounds stiff, but like all things past, it really doesn't matter now. What's important is they still get to play in the postseason, and the investigations are now ended and they can move on. There'll be some financial ramifications, which may damage some of their ability to fund other sports, but OSU basketball and football lives on. So I partially agree with PerunaPete, though his comments were a bit over the top. Let's remember that the vast majority of these violations were reported by the University to the NCAA, and the university took immediate and harsh actions itself to address the problem. They launched their own investigation and penalized themselves for the violations -- including a self-imposed post-season ban last year, and the firing of their former coach. For the football teams, they dismissed a young man who was CLEARLY their best player in Clarrett. And they also suspended Troy Smith, who has proven himself invaluable to the team. I don't think anyone who watched the Texas game doubts that if Smith had played the prior bowl game and the first two games of the last season, OSU would have been beaten the Longhorns that game. THey cost themselves dearly by suspending him, and they knew that well in advance. Nobody gets the death sentence because the coach discovers a kid is taking bribes and removes the kid from scholarship, or finds that another participated in an event that violated rules unknowingly and therefore suspends that kid for two extreemly crucial games. And for basketball, the coach issued a loan to one student who never even attended the U, and helped setup free housing for another member of the team -- Boban Savovic. The coach and his assistance knew of these arrangements, no one else. WHen administration officials found out, they immediately addressed it. It was hardly a case of the university blatantly ignoring and covering up NCAA rules infractions. They removed the offending parties, imposed sanctions on themselves and launched an internal investigation, and immediately informed the NCAA and cooperated fully. The theory that because they're so big they're immune, is a big rash when one considers how powerful SMU was when they received the "death penalty"... __________________ There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary and those who do not.