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Old 04-26-2007, 05:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: The search for the right mouthpiece...

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Originally Posted by screamingmorris View Post
It takes an amazing amount of lip in the cup to bottom out on a Schilke 14a4a, since the 14a4a is deeper than the 12a4a, and the 12a4a is deeper than the 13a4a.

Are you an upstream or downstream player?
Was it your upper lip or lower lip that bottomed out?
What percentage of your lip in the cup is upper lip versus lower lip?
I'm not criticizing.
As an upstream player who plays a Schilke 14a4 I'm just trying to learn from other people's experiences.
(When I used a different mouthpiece placement 35 years ago I used to bottom out on a 13a4a, but I recently discovered that I can now play the 13a4a if I want because I now play closer to the center of the cup)

- morris
Vulagnos have an amazing amount of everything! But to answer your questions, downstream, both, 1/3 2/3.
Check out Mark Curry's comments on lip intrusion at his website. Custom Mouthpieces
or here, quoted from his website:
"Lip Intrusion: this occurs when the lips actually intrude into the mouthpiece cup. This is somewhat related to the size and thickness of the individual's lips, but not a direct correlation. I stood next to Cat Anderson (the Great High Note player with Duke Ellington's band) and watched him play back in 1975. Even though his lips were large and thick, there was nearly zero intrusion into the cup, which was incredibly shallow. On the other hand, I've seen small-lipped players stuff half their face into a 1C and sound great from low G to high G and above."

Hope that helps answer the questions!
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