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Old 04-26-2007, 07:26 PM   #8 (permalink)
screamingmorris
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Re: The search for the right mouthpiece...

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Originally Posted by Vulgano Brother View Post
Vulagnos have an amazing amount of everything! But to answer your questions, downstream, both, 1/3 2/3.
Check out Mark Curry's comments on lip intrusion at his website. Custom Mouthpieces
or here, quoted from his website:
"Lip Intrusion: this occurs when the lips actually intrude into the mouthpiece cup. This is somewhat related to the size and thickness of the individual's lips, but not a direct correlation. I stood next to Cat Anderson (the Great High Note player with Duke Ellington's band) and watched him play back in 1975. Even though his lips were large and thick, there was nearly zero intrusion into the cup, which was incredibly shallow. On the other hand, I've seen small-lipped players stuff half their face into a 1C and sound great from low G to high G and above."

Hope that helps answer the questions!
If I understood correctly, you are a downstream player but you use 1/3 upper lip and 2/3 lower lip, which is more typical of an upstream player.
Downstream players would be more likely to use 2/3 upper lip and 1/3 lower lip.
As an upstream player who used 2/3 lower lip 35 years ago I also had my lower lip bottoming out and blocking the throat with a 13a4a.
In the last 4 years I had to adopt something closer to half and half in playing my old Denis Wicke 4E so that my embouchure aperture was closer to the maximum cup depth near the throat, and that half and half is what I now use with my Schilke 14a4.
Anyway, if you are using 2/3 lower lip and most players' lower lips are fleshier and intrude into the mouthpiece farther, bottoming out is easier to understand.
Thanks for the info.
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