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Originally Posted by trpt2345  I disagree.There is absolutely no difference at all between F dorian and Eb Major starting on F. And especially with beginning improvisers it is silly to burden them with extraneous terminology. Abersold has become a millionaire by inventing complex terms for what is at bottom fairly simple concepts. All the major scales and minor scales and you're in. F7#11? Notes of the C melodic minor scale. Dmi7b5-G7b9? C harmonic minor. Then the diminished scale and you have 98% of what you need to know. It is much more important to learn the notes of the chords (at bottom there are only 48 chords-12 Major 7th, 12 minor 7th, twelve dominant 7ths and 12 half diminished or Mi7b5). These are the chords that occur "in nature" (built on scales). You can alter dominants, bu they can be accounted for in modes of the melodic minor. |
This attitude is a fine way to start out, but the more you improvise, the less you'll need it. It's like learning a new word. For instance, when you first learned the word "despicable," you probably just thought of it as a synonym of "bad," but now your vocabulary has grown and you can use the word "despicable" in a sentence without thinking about that. It's the same sort of thing with Eb major and F dorian. The more you use F dorian, the less you'll need to keep thinking about Eb major while you play it, and the more you'll be able to make music. Eventually if you keep going you'll be able to look at weird chord symbols like "C7#11" and "E half-diminished #2" and "F# altered" without taking that extra second to think about what major or minor scales they correspond to. (All of those correspond to G melodic minor, by the way.)