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Old 10-19-2009, 02:19 PM   #1
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About practice with straight mute......

Dear all,

Recently I though of buying straight mute to increase the practice(during d night). But usually what kind of meterial should I buy(plastic or aluminium)? & I oso wonder if for longtime being will it affect my hearing?

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Old 10-19-2009, 05:08 PM   #2
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Re: About practice with straight mute......

you don't need a straight mute. It changes the sound, but hardly mutes it at all.
get a practise mute, yamaha Silent brass, Best brass, adjustable cup mute (dennis wick) and put the cup against the bell, or get a plunger, drill a hole in it and place it over the bell.
all of those do more than a straight mute.
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Re: About practice with straight mute......

I bought a trum-cor Lyric Stealth mute (www.trumcor.com)and have found it to be an excellent practice mute, allowing for good resonance and intonation on all but the extremely lowest F#, G and A (below middle C) and great response throughout the rest of the range of the trumpet. I can practice with that in my basement and the rest of my family can sleep without being disturbed at all.
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Re: About practice with straight mute......

With regards to how your hearing may be affected, the current UK guidelines suggest that unless you are subjecting yourself to an average noise level of more than 80dBA over a full daytime or week period during your 'working' hours, you are unlikely to damage your hearing permanently.

80dBA is pretty easy to get to when you are playing with full ensembles for long periods but at home with a practice mute I would be very surprised if you ever encountered a problem.

The general rule of thumb is: If you ever start to hear a humming or buzzing noise that shouldn’t be there, review how loud you are playing and what other noise you are exposing yourself to. Hearing a buzzing noise is a sign that you have already damaged your hearing by causing a temporary threshold shift. After doing this a few times it becomes a permanent threshold shift and if you were to have your hearing tested you would probably find first of all that you had lost some high frequency hearing response. As you get older, this can then get worse.

As an acoustic consultant I would usually tell a musician they should be wearing hearing protection – such as ear plugs, but as a trumpet player I know that this isn’t always practical. It’s the choice you have to make….
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Re: About practice with straight mute......

I use a Bach practice mute........I started working on some stuff at 6am this morning.
My neighbors, I live in Brooklyn NY, have not complained.

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Re: About practice with straight mute......

I use a Denis Wick practice mute and I used to play in the same room as a sleeping baby.
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Re: About practice with straight mute......

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I use a Denis Wick practice mute and I used to play in the same room as a sleeping baby.
I didn't use a practice mute; my kids got used to it and slept on through.

My wife, however, prefered the Yamaha Silent Brass mute.

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Re: About practice with straight mute......

i have a stone line practice mute to take with me, but that has alot of resistance. at home i have the yamaha silent brass system which i love, it is very quiet with little resistance. worth every penny.
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Re: About practice with straight mute......

Why are you concerned about hearing loss??? It is mute, how can it hrm your hearing??? Is there something I do not know.

Regarding mutes I combine Yamaha silent brass and wee zee, half an hour one, half an hour other

but lately, (listen to this little secret) I have discovered that I can actually play w/o mute, open trumpet, but very very silent, almost a whisper. I play around midnight in kitchen and my wife is sleeping in the sleeping room, there are however two sets of closed door between us but hey. Neighbours also cant hear anything. And the best part is that silent playing is rapidly improving my overall performance
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Re: About practice with straight mute......

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With regards to how your hearing may be affected, the current UK guidelines suggest that unless you are subjecting yourself to an average noise level of more than 80dBA over a full daytime or week period during your 'working' hours, you are unlikely to damage your hearing permanently.

80dBA is pretty easy to get to when you are playing with full ensembles for long periods but at home with a practice mute I would be very surprised if you ever encountered a problem.

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As an acoustic consultant I would usually tell a musician they should be wearing hearing protection – such as ear plugs, but as a trumpet player I know that this isn’t always practical. It’s the choice you have to make….
I could be wrong, but I think he was referring to damage to his "tonal" hearing. Sometimes the pitch changes witht he practice mutes.
But perhaps I misinterpreted this.
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