Agile fingers

Bloomin Untidy Musician · 01-22-2008, 04:32 AM

To Tom Hooton

I was wondering if you had any tips for practising long series of fast runs? I find that my fingers become frozen and clumsy after a few beats of this type of music.

thomashooten · 01-23-2008, 12:25 AM

Hi,

Practice using all different types of groupings of notes, with a wide variety of rhythms. How many combos you can come up with? I've also heard that it helps some people to practice things like this with the opposite hand. Keep your wrist and fingers fairly loose.

Have fun!

Tom

Pedal C · 01-23-2008, 01:02 AM

Another way to practice, especially if it gets worse as you go, is to practice the lick from back to front. Play the last beat, then the last two, last three, etc...finally playing it all. That way when you get there, your hand will remember playing the end with the same ease as the beginning. Start slow, back to front, and once you can play the whole thing, start slowly building up speed.

J.

Bloomin Untidy Musician · 01-23-2008, 05:15 AM

Thanks gentlemen, i will try out some of these ideas.

tromj · 01-31-2008, 09:16 PM

Hey Tom, how do you feel about Nagel Speed Studies for this kind of thing?

rowuk · 02-01-2008, 05:33 AM

We are creatures of habit. If your fingers "hang up" after a couple of beats, you do not have the patterns committed to memory. That is why we practice scales, Clarke, Arban and the like.
Habits are developed by starting SLOWLY and then repetitions. Play the lick at half speed with a metronome. If it still is not PERFECT, slow it down some more. Perfect it at the slower speed, then advance as your body and mind become cooperative!
Any patterns that you commit to memory will aid future passages that you will need to play!!!!!

cornetguy · 02-01-2008, 07:20 AM

Ditto above

commakozzi · 02-01-2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornetguy

Ditto above

Ditto the Ditto! You have to slow that stuff down man and work up to it and be patient.

01-22-2008, 04:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
Bloomin Untidy Musician Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Staffordshire Brand: Smith Watkins Posts: 94	Agile fingers To Tom Hooton I was wondering if you had any tips for practising long series of fast runs? I find that my fingers become frozen and clumsy after a few beats of this type of music.

01-23-2008, 12:25 AM	#2 (permalink)
thomashooten Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlanta Brand: Yamaha Posts: 91	Re: Agile fingers Hi, Practice using all different types of groupings of notes, with a wide variety of rhythms. How many combos you can come up with? I've also heard that it helps some people to practice things like this with the opposite hand. Keep your wrist and fingers fairly loose. Have fun! Tom

01-23-2008, 01:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
Pedal C Piano User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Denver, Co. Posts: 453	Re: Agile fingers Another way to practice, especially if it gets worse as you go, is to practice the lick from back to front. Play the last beat, then the last two, last three, etc...finally playing it all. That way when you get there, your hand will remember playing the end with the same ease as the beginning. Start slow, back to front, and once you can play the whole thing, start slowly building up speed. J.
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01-23-2008, 05:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bloomin Untidy Musician Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Staffordshire Brand: Smith Watkins Posts: 94	Re: Agile fingers Thanks gentlemen, i will try out some of these ideas.

01-31-2008, 09:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
tromj Piano User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Teaneck, NJ Posts: 317	Re: Agile fingers Hey Tom, how do you feel about Nagel Speed Studies for this kind of thing?
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02-01-2008, 05:33 AM	#6 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Brand: Nat, Piston, Rotary Posts: 3,917	Re: Agile fingers We are creatures of habit. If your fingers "hang up" after a couple of beats, you do not have the patterns committed to memory. That is why we practice scales, Clarke, Arban and the like. Habits are developed by starting SLOWLY and then repetitions. Play the lick at half speed with a metronome. If it still is not PERFECT, slow it down some more. Perfect it at the slower speed, then advance as your body and mind become cooperative! Any patterns that you commit to memory will aid future passages that you will need to play!!!!!
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02-01-2008, 07:20 AM	#7 (permalink)
cornetguy Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Brand: Yamaha, Bach, Getzen Posts: 730	Re: Agile fingers Ditto above
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