Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 54
Like Tree21Likes
Trumpet Discussion Discuss Air comes out my nose in the General forums; Originally Posted by ricecakes230 Velopharyngeal Insufficiency VPI (air leaking out the nose) Rx: Take one trumpet, place it on your ...
  1. #41
    Utimate User gmonady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Dayton, Ohio
    Posts
    17,517

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    Quote Originally Posted by ricecakes230 View Post
    Velopharyngeal Insufficiency VPI (air leaking out the nose)

    Rx:
    Take one trumpet, place it on your face and do the following:
    1. Practice everyday in front of the mirror [until] you have no tension in your face.
    2. Breathe in and let it out immediately. Do not hold it!
    3. Relax your shoulders
    4. Check the mouthpiece pressure [and make sure you] open your aperture so that your air can come out [unrestricted].
    5. Think about pushing the air out like a laser beam.
    6. Don't think about hesitation, and holding the air AND DO NOT FORCE [it].

    Sig:
    qd (Daily) PRN bid to tid

    Refill:
    For the rest of your life Brothers and Sisters, for the Rest of your Life
    I edited the above post as a prescription for treating VPI and giving it out to all my patients! What a GREAT summary. I agree, It isn't a medical issue, it is an anatomical and physiological variance of normal. Hey, we physicians give out prescriptions for non-medical issues all the time, especially for rehabilitation for athletes to improve on the process. I look at this prescription as being in the same category.
    RRVancil likes this.
    1940 Olds Super Recording
    1946 Martin Committee
    1953 Olds Recording (LA)
    1965 Olds Ambassador
    1967 Olds Recording (Fullerton)
    1973 Getzen 4 Valve Eterna Flugelhorn
    2012 Kanstul 4 Valve 1526 Flugelhorn
    2014 Allora Pocket Trumpet

  2. #42
    Utimate User gmonady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Dayton, Ohio
    Posts
    17,517

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    Quote Originally Posted by ricecakes230 View Post
    ... No offense to TrumpetMD...
    Man, I have been trying to avoid this the whole time I have been on TM!
    ricecakes230 likes this.
    1940 Olds Super Recording
    1946 Martin Committee
    1953 Olds Recording (LA)
    1965 Olds Ambassador
    1967 Olds Recording (Fullerton)
    1973 Getzen 4 Valve Eterna Flugelhorn
    2012 Kanstul 4 Valve 1526 Flugelhorn
    2014 Allora Pocket Trumpet

  3. #43
    Utimate User gmonady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Dayton, Ohio
    Posts
    17,517

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    Quote Originally Posted by ricecakes230 View Post
    ...Message Dr.Mark. He's a miracle worker...
    Except for that dart gun thingy, man does that hurt... but it does get me a good night's sleep. I just hate the part when I wake up at the Pittsburgh zoo in the primate cage.
    ricecakes230 likes this.
    1940 Olds Super Recording
    1946 Martin Committee
    1953 Olds Recording (LA)
    1965 Olds Ambassador
    1967 Olds Recording (Fullerton)
    1973 Getzen 4 Valve Eterna Flugelhorn
    2012 Kanstul 4 Valve 1526 Flugelhorn
    2014 Allora Pocket Trumpet

  4. #44
    Fortissimo User TrumpetMD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    3,048

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    Quote Originally Posted by ricecakes230 View Post
    No offense to TrumpetMD but I refused to live with it.
    No problem. I'm offended all of the time. (just joking)

    Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying you should give in to it. But not everyone can totally eliminate the problem. I'm speaking about my personal experiences, of course. But I'm also speaking about my experiences with this issue as a physician and from the published literature.

    Mike
    ricecakes230 likes this.
    Bach Stradivarius 43* (1974), Bach 3C Mouthpiece.
    Getzen 896 Eterna Flugelhorn (1974), Curry 3FL Mouthpiece.
    Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, and Besson horns.

  5. #45
    Utimate User
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Jackson NC
    Posts
    8,040

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    In my essay a long, long time ago (5th grade) I wrote a segment titled "My Tin Cup" recalling my prior usage of a blow pipe ... to blow bubbles. In the segment as followed "I Killed Billy" as was the hue and cry of Junior, I left my tin cup on the porch steps. I didn't write the sequel, but I subsequently learned that "My Tin Cup" was used by a child to drink his milk and my blow pipe was trashed or lost. Billy was my now late brother although he only broke his left forearm and sustained some other bruises in that incident.

  6. #46
    Piano User Branson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    483

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    possible short flexible pallet...

    I have had good results with students with this exercise...

    Collect a small assortment of rubber balloons. Find some with easy to strong resistance to inflate.
    Start blowing up the easy balloons and gradually work up to the more difficult balloon resistance.

    If it is a muscle development problem, this will help.

    If it is a pallet dimensional problem, it might not help.

  7. #47
    Fortissimo User TrumpetMD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Maryland
    Posts
    3,048

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    Quote Originally Posted by Branson View Post
    possible short flexible pallet...

    I have had good results with students with this exercise...

    Collect a small assortment of rubber balloons. Find some with easy to strong resistance to inflate.
    Start blowing up the easy balloons and gradually work up to the more difficult balloon resistance.

    If it is a muscle development problem, this will help.

    If it is a pallet dimensional problem, it might not help.
    I agree that these "air flow" exercises with balloons can help. Certain tonguing exercises, especially K tonguing, can also help.

    (This isn't to take away from what has already been said about good form and a consistent daily routine.)

    Mike
    Bach Stradivarius 43* (1974), Bach 3C Mouthpiece.
    Getzen 896 Eterna Flugelhorn (1974), Curry 3FL Mouthpiece.
    Plus a few other Bach, Getzen, Olds, Carol, and Besson horns.

  8. #48
    Mezzo Forte User
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Posts
    920

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    Hi Gman,
    riceckaes sez: Dr.Mark. He's a miracle worker...
    and you said, Except for that dart gun thingy.
    ---
    I'm probably better at blowpipe than trumpet. I can stand back 20 or so feet and robinhood darts until it's a bore. Others use to hate to shoot with me because I'd destory the backs of their darts.The ease and accuracy of these things are just amazing. The down side? Swallowing a dart when the person inhales.
    Dr.Dyak
    TrumpetMD likes this.

  9. #49
    Utimate User
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Jackson NC
    Posts
    8,040

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    Quote Originally Posted by TrumpetMD View Post
    I agree that these "air flow" exercises with balloons can help. Certain tonguing exercises, especially K tonguing, can also help.

    (This isn't to take away from what has already been said about good form and a consistent daily routine.)

    Mike
    My pulmonologist Rxs balloons for my COPD but they're not in Medicare's pharmacology, thus they are an out-of-pocket expense.

  10. #50
    Fortissimo User Sethoflagos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts
    4,875

    Re: Air comes out my nose

    Quote Originally Posted by Branson View Post
    .....Collect a small assortment of rubber balloons. Find some with easy to strong resistance to inflate.
    Start blowing up the easy balloons and gradually work up to the more difficult balloon resistance...
    How difficult? As a kid I used to blow up hot water bottles, but was roundly admonished by my mother for 'showing off'. And ruining a couple of her hot water bottles.
    Bb Trumpets: Yamaha YTR-6335HSII - Flip Oakes "Wild Thing" - 1972 Getzen Eterna "Severinsen" - 1980 Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign Studio - B&S 3005 WTR-L - 1963 Besson 10-10 - Monke Mystery Horn - Spiri Vario
    C Trumpet: Inderbinen Alpha 200
    Bb Bass: 1961 Holton #58 "Symphony"


    Wyrd oft nereš unfågne eorl, žonne his ellen dėah.

    "Pypes, trompes, nakers, clariounes, that in bataille blowen blody sounes"

Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Air problem in nose/throat
    By hoho in forum Trumpet Discussion
    Replies: 21
    Last Post: 02-20-2010, 06:46 PM
  2. nose bleeding and the trumpet
    By anthony in forum Trumpet Discussion
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 10-08-2009, 11:49 AM
  3. Air Escaping Through Nose
    By misty.sj in forum Trumpet Discussion
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 02-09-2008, 07:54 PM
  4. Nose Trumpet Anyone?
    By ALLCHOPS in forum TM Lounge
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 04-11-2007, 05:47 PM
  5. Leaking air through the nose - help
    By woo in forum Trumpet Discussion
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 03-07-2006, 03:20 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26