Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year?

vrrodri · 12-11-2008, 08:03 PM

I am considering to buy a used Bach Strad 43. Original owner says he has had the trumpet for about three years so it might be a 2004 or 2005 production model. Was 2004/05 a good year for Bach? I hear that there were some issues with Bach quality during some years.

Pedal C · 12-11-2008, 08:27 PM

The only way to know is to play it and compare to any other horn you might want. Horns vary horn to horn, not year to year, so if it works for you, it's a good one.

veery715 · 12-11-2008, 09:30 PM

What Pedal C said. Go play it. Give it a good looking over, check for good soldering at the braces and valve body, pull the valves and eyeball 'em. If it wasn't built right you should be able to tell.
veery

tonybaloney · 12-11-2008, 09:33 PM

Strads are Strads. Play some and see which one is the best. There some Stards that aren't for you. I played three different 37s to see which one worked the best.

Brass crusader · 12-11-2008, 10:49 PM

Play before you pay!!! There are some Strads that are rumored to be better or lesser in quality than others, and some vintages are more collectable, but If it plays well, than it's worth every penny.

rowuk · 12-12-2008, 04:12 AM

Only the geeks make an issue of good or bad years. This is not WINE. Each horn is different. The Strads do not fall apart, so the differences are not easily visible.

Bach is an instrument that you must PLAY before making up your mind.

gbdeamer · 12-12-2008, 12:32 PM

Go play the horn...

bagmangood · 12-12-2008, 02:58 PM

Play the horn,
The problem is not the year usually, but what the tech who assembled it had for lunch that day.

RobertSlotte · 12-12-2008, 03:08 PM

This is a question for my personal lack of knowledge:

Why is it that within the same brand (for example Bach`s) and same model almost every horn is different...I mean it is the exakt same material used and fore sure the same measurements in millimeters used. Still the horns come out different (inconsistent) .
Why is that?

bagmangood · 12-12-2008, 03:24 PM

Partly its not the exact same material, because metals aren't always the same.
The temperature at which the tuning slide is made is different, the braces might be slightly different, the bell bow may be slightly different.
Its all about quality control and techs knowing how to adjust for the differences

12-11-2008, 08:03 PM	#1
vrrodri New Friend Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 31	Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? I am considering to buy a used Bach Strad 43. Original owner says he has had the trumpet for about three years so it might be a 2004 or 2005 production model. Was 2004/05 a good year for Bach? I hear that there were some issues with Bach quality during some years.

12-11-2008, 08:27 PM	#2
Pedal C Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Denver, Co. Posts: 773	Re: Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? The only way to know is to play it and compare to any other horn you might want. Horns vary horn to horn, not year to year, so if it works for you, it's a good one. __________________ "The oboe's A is to make sure we still play it 1 and 2" - Bud Herseth "One way or another, every patient stops bleeding." - Scrubs

12-11-2008, 09:30 PM	#3
veery715 Forte User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ithaca NY Posts: 1,401	Re: Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? What Pedal C said. Go play it. Give it a good looking over, check for good soldering at the braces and valve body, pull the valves and eyeball 'em. If it wasn't built right you should be able to tell. veery

12-11-2008, 09:33 PM	#4
tonybaloney Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Arlington Posts: 50	Re: Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? Strads are Strads. Play some and see which one is the best. There some Stards that aren't for you. I played three different 37s to see which one worked the best. __________________ Bach Strad 37 Yamaha Student Bach 5 and 7C Random 10 1/2C Curry 8.5* Monette B4LVS

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Brass crusader Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near Buffalo Posts: 525	Re: Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? Play before you pay!!! There are some Strads that are rumored to be better or lesser in quality than others, and some vintages are more collectable, but If it plays well, than it's worth every penny. __________________ Yamaha Xeno Custom w/ reverse leadpipe Conn "Vintage One" C tpt, raw brass prototype '47 Olds Super Recording tpt '47 Olds Special tpt '52 Olds Ambassador cornet '67 Olds Special cornet 70's Yamaha 631 Flugel w/ Rose brass bell 70's Conn 17b Coprion director '29 Martin Handcraft "The New Master" '35 Conn 22B NY Symphony Special tpt '83 Callet New York Super Large Bore tpt. '35 Conn 32H tbone '60's Couesnon Flugel '70 Bach Stradivarius 37 in lacquer Kanstul French Besson Courtois 4-valve picc

12-12-2008, 04:12 AM	#6
rowuk Moderator Utimate User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 7,205	Re: Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? Only the geeks make an issue of good or bad years. This is not WINE. Each horn is different. The Strads do not fall apart, so the differences are not easily visible. Bach is an instrument that you must PLAY before making up your mind. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

12-12-2008, 12:32 PM	#7
gbdeamer Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 555	Re: Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? Go play the horn...

12-12-2008, 02:58 PM	#8
bagmangood Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bostonish & San Francisco Posts: 940	Re: Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? Play the horn, The problem is not the year usually, but what the tech who assembled it had for lunch that day. __________________ Bb: Courtois 305 "Elite" C: Bach C180-239 (Akwright conversion), Cornet: Conn Wonder (1900) Picc: Coming soon?

12-12-2008, 03:08 PM	#9
RobertSlotte Pianissimo User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 205	Re: Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? This is a question for my personal lack of knowledge: Why is it that within the same brand (for example Bach`s) and same model almost every horn is different...I mean it is the exakt same material used and fore sure the same measurements in millimeters used. Still the horns come out different (inconsistent) . Why is that? __________________ THE TRUMPETS SHALL SOUND! Robert Slotte Bach Model 43 Bb Yamaha 8310z Bb B&S Eb-Trumpet B&S D-Trumpet Gezen A/B piccolo

12-12-2008, 03:24 PM	#10
bagmangood Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bostonish & San Francisco Posts: 940	Re: Bach Strad 43 Bad or good year? Partly its not the exact same material, because metals aren't always the same. The temperature at which the tuning slide is made is different, the braces might be slightly different, the bell bow may be slightly different. Its all about quality control and techs knowing how to adjust for the differences __________________ Bb: Courtois 305 "Elite" C: Bach C180-239 (Akwright conversion), Cornet: Conn Wonder (1900) Picc: Coming soon?

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