Totally bummed. Went to a pawn shop and found a Conn Director with copper bell for $69. Needed repair. the first horn I ever had was just like it except it didn't need repair. Took the horn to he checkout and asked for a discount. Owner looks it up on Ebay and found a classified add for a similar horn for $1,499!!! Owner refused to sell me the horn and would not even reprice it. I hate EBay idiots and pawn store idiots.