C trumpet problem

Wynton · 09-05-2005, 08:36 PM

I play the Yamaha Xeno C, but condinsation (spit) is building up extremely quickly in the tuning slide. When I have to play a page or two nonstop (without emptying my water key) I sometimes just have to stop because of all the water build up. I don't have this problem with my Bb.

Thanks!

Manny Laureano · 09-05-2005, 09:20 PM

Yeah, that's a drag.

ML

trumpet blower88 · 09-05-2005, 10:49 PM

just tape the water key open... then it will automaticaly drain whenever it needs to...

but if you don't want to sound like crap, then i don't know what to tell you...

Manny Laureano · 09-05-2005, 10:52 PM

Seriously, though, I just remembered something...

condensation is not spit.

ML

dizforprez · 09-05-2005, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wynton

I play the Yamaha Xeno C, but condinsation (spit) is building up extremely quickly in the tuning slide. When I have to play a page or two nonstop (without emptying my water key) I sometimes just have to stop because of all the water build up. I don't have this problem with my Bb.

Thanks!

what are you playing that is a page or two nonstop? etudes?

who says you cant stop and empty it?

Stradivarius · 09-05-2005, 10:55 PM

tell yamaha that you aren't happy with it and ask for a replacement, or for them to try to fix it

Heavens2kadonka · 09-05-2005, 11:44 PM

If the spit (I use that term, sorry) builds up in one place primarily, you have a problem. The spit should build up in two or maybe even three places; The main slide, the 3rd Slide, or the 3rd bottom cap.

Try a more rounded slide, see if that helps. Maybe even take off the 3rd cap altogether. See what happens, play around.

My Kanstul 1503 would have buildup in the 3rd cap. very strange.

Van

trumpet blower88 · 09-05-2005, 11:55 PM

So this may be a litle off topic, but why is it that more spit builds up in the 3rd slide rather than the 1st... If you think about it, we use the 1st more, shouldn't it build up there?

timcates · 09-06-2005, 01:15 AM

not sure (can't remember - haven't been playing C lately), but on my Bb - I can play 4th line D or 4th space Eb or E with the spit valve open and not have any effect on the sound (nodal points don't hit...) - I've been known to sneak the left hand around and drain some spit on those notes or on a quick breath...... YMMV

TC

Bryan_sop_trumpet · 09-06-2005, 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trumpet blower88

So this may be a litle off topic, but why is it that more spit builds up in the 3rd slide rather than the 1st... If you think about it, we use the 1st more, shouldn't it build up there?

I would assume that it's because we play mostly pointing slightly downwards, so gravity doesn't let spit build up in the 1st slide

09-05-2005, 08:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Wynton New Friend Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 14	C trumpet problem I play the Yamaha Xeno C, but condinsation (spit) is building up extremely quickly in the tuning slide. When I have to play a page or two nonstop (without emptying my water key) I sometimes just have to stop because of all the water build up. I don't have this problem with my Bb. Thanks!

09-05-2005, 10:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
trumpet blower88 Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 644	just tape the water key open... then it will automaticaly drain whenever it needs to... but if you don't want to sound like crap, then i don't know what to tell you... __________________ -David Jacques

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09-05-2005, 11:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	If the spit (I use that term, sorry) builds up in one place primarily, you have a problem. The spit should build up in two or maybe even three places; The main slide, the 3rd Slide, or the 3rd bottom cap. Try a more rounded slide, see if that helps. Maybe even take off the 3rd cap altogether. See what happens, play around. My Kanstul 1503 would have buildup in the 3rd cap. very strange. Van __________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

09-05-2005, 11:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
trumpet blower88 Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 644	So this may be a litle off topic, but why is it that more spit builds up in the 3rd slide rather than the 1st... If you think about it, we use the 1st more, shouldn't it build up there? __________________ -David Jacques

09-05-2005, 09:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	Yeah, that's a drag. ML

09-05-2005, 10:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	Seriously, though, I just remembered something... condensation is not spit. ML

09-06-2005, 01:15 AM	#9 (permalink)
timcates Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas - USA Posts: 81	not sure (can't remember - haven't been playing C lately), but on my Bb - I can play 4th line D or 4th space Eb or E with the spit valve open and not have any effect on the sound (nodal points don't hit...) - I've been known to sneak the left hand around and drain some spit on those notes or on a quick breath...... YMMV TC

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