BE as Calisthenics?

uatrmpt · 12-09-2005, 08:32 PM

I've been doing BE off and on for a couple of months now and have noticed that the RI exercises seem to produce a feeling somewhat similar to Caruso's Six Notes or other techniques, such as the pencil exercise.

When I do the Roll In exercises with the nose breathing, I'm keeping my chops set throughout the entire range and I don't release them until the end of that particular page. I can't seem to recall anything in the text about whether or not to reset in between "phrases" (which the nose breathing would negate), but I also don't recall anything about relaxing the embouchure or not during the nose breathing.

So, my two questions are this:
1) Relax the embouchure or not during the nose breathing?
2) Was the calisthenic nature which occurs if you don't relax during the nose breathing an intended thing, or just a happy coincidence? Either way, it seems to be a benefit.

Thanks,
Matt

(Crossposted from TH due to lack of response over there)

dbacon · 12-09-2005, 10:33 PM

Schlossberg

Clarke

Irons

Arban

Charlier

Scales and Chords

Good trumpet practice!!

Manny Laureano · 12-09-2005, 11:32 PM

BE, RI, RO, TOL, TLC, RKO, TKO, TOKYO, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSN, MSNBC, PMS, and don't forget PB&J.

ML

uatrmpt · 12-09-2005, 11:34 PM

I get my Schlossberg during my daily maintenence routine, along with various lip slurs. Lately, I've been using Irons more for the double tonguing stuff in the back than anything. As far as the others, I've got a healthy dose of recital lit on my plate, but they'll return if I ever get to play what I want to again.

Mainly, I use BE at the end of my day to help reset all of the damage I've done throughout the day so that the next day won't be so rough. Perhaps you band director folks can let me know how to manage student teaching and keeping the chops in shape. I start my internship the third week of January!

Greg5850 · 12-31-2005, 07:27 PM

Matt, to keep in shape when teaching; play for the kids, play along with the kids, demonstrate for the kids, use your axe during rehearsal instead of singing.
Play along with everyone too, transpose for horn, tuba, trombone, alto sax, etc. Some days you will get lots of playing in--some days not.

I think much of the learning of style, phrasing, breathing, articulation, etc. can be facilitated by the students hearing it done. When your parents taught you to talk they didn't describe how to shape your mouth to produce different sounds, they demonstrated and you copied. I think that concept has an important place in music ed.

So play away, keep in shape and shape young minds!

Greg

dizforprez · 12-31-2005, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uatrmpt

Mainly, I use BE at the end of my day to help reset all of the damage I've done throughout the day so that the next day won't be so rough. Perhaps you band director folks can let me know how to manage student teaching and keeping the chops in shape. I start my internship the third week of January!

I wouldnt let myself get that beat up. If I do push things a bit to much I will pull of getchell. Do it really soft and down a 4th, seems to be a good warm down for me. I think BE is a waste of your time.

As far as keeping in shape while teaching, I practice an hour during my planning period if I am caught up on all my paper work. Then two sessions after school once I get home.

dbacon · 01-01-2006, 01:16 PM

"I think BE is a waste of your time."

I totally agree.....

Ralph · 01-01-2006, 02:28 PM

Wow. This thread took me a while to understand. At first I thought BE meant Barium Enema.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bar...A00003/si=2765

Tootsall · 01-01-2006, 02:35 PM

What!? You mean it doesn't?

uatrmpt · 01-01-2006, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbacon

"I think BE is a waste of your time."

I totally agree.....

Why?

12-09-2005, 08:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
uatrmpt Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: AL Posts: 335	BE as Calisthenics? I've been doing BE off and on for a couple of months now and have noticed that the RI exercises seem to produce a feeling somewhat similar to Caruso's Six Notes or other techniques, such as the pencil exercise. When I do the Roll In exercises with the nose breathing, I'm keeping my chops set throughout the entire range and I don't release them until the end of that particular page. I can't seem to recall anything in the text about whether or not to reset in between "phrases" (which the nose breathing would negate), but I also don't recall anything about relaxing the embouchure or not during the nose breathing. So, my two questions are this: 1) Relax the embouchure or not during the nose breathing? 2) Was the calisthenic nature which occurs if you don't relax during the nose breathing an intended thing, or just a happy coincidence? Either way, it seems to be a benefit. Thanks, Matt (Crossposted from TH due to lack of response over there) __________________ --Matt--

12-09-2005, 10:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
dbacon Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 579	Schlossberg Clarke Irons Arban Charlier Scales and Chords Good trumpet practice!! __________________ Dave Bacon

12-09-2005, 11:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
uatrmpt Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: AL Posts: 335	I get my Schlossberg during my daily maintenence routine, along with various lip slurs. Lately, I've been using Irons more for the double tonguing stuff in the back than anything. As far as the others, I've got a healthy dose of recital lit on my plate, but they'll return if I ever get to play what I want to again. Mainly, I use BE at the end of my day to help reset all of the damage I've done throughout the day so that the next day won't be so rough. Perhaps you band director folks can let me know how to manage student teaching and keeping the chops in shape. I start my internship the third week of January! __________________ --Matt--

01-01-2006, 01:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
dbacon Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 579	"I think BE is a waste of your time." I totally agree..... __________________ Dave Bacon

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Greg5850 New Friend Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WI Posts: 47	Matt, to keep in shape when teaching; play for the kids, play along with the kids, demonstrate for the kids, use your axe during rehearsal instead of singing. Play along with everyone too, transpose for horn, tuba, trombone, alto sax, etc. Some days you will get lots of playing in--some days not. I think much of the learning of style, phrasing, breathing, articulation, etc. can be facilitated by the students hearing it done. When your parents taught you to talk they didn't describe how to shape your mouth to produce different sounds, they demonstrated and you copied. I think that concept has an important place in music ed. So play away, keep in shape and shape young minds! Greg

01-01-2006, 02:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ralph New Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 41	Wow. This thread took me a while to understand. At first I thought BE meant Barium Enema. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/bar...A00003/si=2765

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