robertwhite

Hi folks,

I learned from someone on the TH that newer editions of Charlier's 36 Trancendental Etudes do not include the famous "footnotes" where Charlier recommends supplemental/preparatory etudes for his own.

I went through and typed out what's in the older edition of Charlier, so if you have a newer book, you might find this helpful with regard to "what else?" to practice. I don't know why Leduc would have omitted this information, but here it is if you need it.

The etudes Charlier refers students to for supplemental/preparatory studies are:

G. Balay: 15 Etudes
Chavanne: Etudes Characteristiques
Laurent: Etude Pratiques
A. Petit: Grand Etudes
Maxime-Alphonse: Etude Nouvelles, bk. 2
Arban: Characteristic Studies
(all published by Leduc, but the Arban's are the same in the C.F. edition)

The specific footnotes are as follows:

#1 - Articulation
Laurent: 1
Maxime-Alphonse: 4

#2 - Style
Balay: 4, 8, 13
Chavanne: 23
Arban: 2, 8, 12
Petit: 4, 8

#3 - Thirds
Balay: 1, 15
Chavanne: 1
Laurent: 1, 5

#4 - Style
same as #2

#5 - Articulation
Chavanne: 24
Arban: 8

#6 - Style
same as #2

#7 - Technique
Balay: 15
Chavanne: 5, 12
Max-Alph: 5

#8 - Fourths
none

#9 - Scherzetto
Balay: 7

#10 - Rhythm
none

#11 - Fantasie (prep etude for Charlier's "Solo de Concours")
Laurent: 2, 9
Max-Alph: 2, 18

#12 - Etude Moderne
Laurent: 8
Chavanne: 8

#13 - Prelude
Balay: 8
Petit: 4, 7

#14 - For the 3rd Finger
Laurent: 3

#15 - Fifths
Max-Alph: 19

#16 - Double Tonguing
Balay: 12
Chavanne: 9, 13, 21
Laurent: 10
Petit: 11

#17 - Sixths
Chavanne: 24
Max-Alph: 19

#18 - Triple Tonguing
Chavanne: 17, 20
Balay: 2

#19 - Sevenths
Arban: "sevenths"
Max-Alph: 19

#20 - "Combined Movements in Varied Rhythms"
Laurent: 20

#21 - Octaves
Chavanne: 3, 4, 5
Laurent: 13
Max-Alph: 19

#22 - Various Tonguings
Chavanne: 12

#23 - Arpeggios
Chavanne: 15
Balay: 14, 15

#24 - Trumpet passages from Wagner's works
none

#25 - Slurring
Chavanne: 16
Arban: 8

#26 - Chromaticism
Laurent: 12
Chavanne: 25
Arban: 14

#27 - Fantasie
none

#28 - Triple Tonguing
Chavanne: 18, 19
Arban: airs varies (the solos, e.g. "Norma", "Carnival", etc.)
Petit: 12

#29 - The Mordent
Chavanne: 11

#30 - Marche
Laurent: 16

#31 - Double Tonguing
Laurent: 5
Petit: 11

#32 - Slurring through Harmonics
Balay: 14, 15
Laurent: 6
Max-Alph: 14
Petit: 3, 10

#33 - Triple Tonguing
Balay: 10
Chavanne: 17, 18, 20, 25
Petit: 12

#34 - Fantasie Rythmique
Balay: 12
Max-Alph: 7, 13, 15, 17
Laurent: 10

#35 - Slurring Etude
Laurent: 6
Max-Alph: 14
Petit: 10

#36 - Trills
Arban: p. 111 (Carl Fischer edition. In the Leduc, it's bk. 2, p. 91)
Chavanne: 6

sublmbadfish

so thats waht all that french is...thanks for finding that...i have to get an english translation...any1 know where i can get just the writing sections in english???

MGTrumpet

Google "Charlier Translation" and the first one returned should be a link to the translation that was provided in the ITG journal a while back.

Double_G

May I inquire as to where you bought your Charlier book from? I did need it for an audition I was considering. If this post broke someones train of thought please excuse my stupidity.

Thanks, Andrew.

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