Chops gone, brain gone

frankmike · 10-23-2009, 06:21 AM

It is over I have reached the bottom, chops are gone and I cannot concentrate on music, and I am nervous almost on a verge of a nervous breakdown

Now I know it happens from time to time, but how long will it last?

what do I do?

Take a hike in the nature? Swimm in pool, ride a bike? What? My head will explode

Bach219 · 10-23-2009, 07:58 AM

Relaxing is always good! Like rowuk always says, when stuff like that happen. just use more pressure! JK DON'T!!!!

Just get your mind off trumpet for now! Do something that makes you happy...

Vulgano Brother · 10-23-2009, 12:33 PM

It is real hard to predict how long a burn-out will last. The fun just plain goes away (perhaps to that same dimension where socks in the wash disapear to). Kick the horn under the bed, tell it to stay, and do some fun stuff for a while. Hikes/walks are a good opportunity to meditate on why you love(d) playing. Having done so, turn it into some self-affirming self-talk. Stuff like "I enjoy playing and others enjoy playing with and listening to me." Listen to your favorite pieces. Spend some time each day at TM.

After a while, the itch will come back.

Have fun!

dpa10 · 10-23-2009, 12:53 PM

Are you a nervous wreck because you can't play?
Or are you so upset that you have lost interest?
If the latter is true, don't be afraid to seek professional help.
Anxiety and depression can be very debilitating.
Good luck.

EdMann · 10-23-2009, 01:11 PM

Trumpet playing ain't everything, but music is! Play piano for a bit, listen to the iPod, shop for a cheap vintage horn but definately take a day off. IMO
ed

Markie · 10-23-2009, 01:53 PM

FrankMike says:
"It is over I have reached the bottom"
------------------
If you were to ask a scholarly Christian, "What is the definition of Hell"? They would probably say " A kingdom where no Hope resides and who's capital is Pandamonium".

Well.......you ain't in Hell yet so go blow off the steam (whatever it is), come back with a fresh attitude and get to work! You're just not a musician, you're a trumpet player damned it!!!!!!!

Pedal C · 10-23-2009, 02:44 PM

When something I usually love becomes unbearable for whatever reason, I just get away from it. No trumpet playing, no listening, no thinking about hte trumpet. For me, a day or two is all that I need to remember why I like playing in the first place and I can come back with refreshed.

alderdaveson · 10-23-2009, 03:30 PM

To become obssessed with anything is NOT healthy. In our world, you have to find some
solitude and quiet. You have to make yourself slow down and smell the roses. Allcliches,but absolutely necessary to find some place in your mind that you can stand and that can stand you. I quit playing for a year in the 80s when I went through bar fights at gigs, lots of negative stuff, lousey rhythm sections, noise and ear issues. Depending on how old you are you will be able to put things in perspective and determine what is most important. Trumpet is only one very small part of a life unless it is your bread and butter, for your daily sustenance and you need it as your source of survival. Life and death are serious, trumpet playing is way out on the fringe. Ask anybody who has had serious health issues, they will be honest and tell you what is truly important. If you have a serious depression issue that is something that will need treatment. Don't sell yourself short and wait to find out. Talk to a 20 or 30 year lifer band director. Especially one who is a trumpet player. Buddha said "all life is suffering". Who am I to second guess him?

MTROSTER · 10-23-2009, 04:28 PM

Put away your horn for a week and don't even think about it. Then go back;it always has worked for me.

bobd0 · 10-23-2009, 08:09 PM

You could always try what I did when I reached bottom; put the horn down for forty years then pick it up again and suffer deep regret -- every day for the rest of your life -- for ever having put it down.

You can't make up for lost time.

10-23-2009, 06:21 AM	#1
frankmike Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 103	Chops gone, brain gone It is over I have reached the bottom, chops are gone and I cannot concentrate on music, and I am nervous almost on a verge of a nervous breakdown Now I know it happens from time to time, but how long will it last? what do I do? Take a hike in the nature? Swimm in pool, ride a bike? What? My head will explode

10-23-2009, 07:58 AM	#2
Bach219 Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: MI Posts: 525	Re: Chops gone, brain gone Relaxing is always good! Like rowuk always says, when stuff like that happen. just use more pressure! JK DON'T!!!! Just get your mind off trumpet for now! Do something that makes you happy... __________________ Raw brass Bach TR300 Vincent Bach 3C Vincent Bach 7C Vincent Bach Corp. 10.5C I didn't want to get that ring around my lips from practicing the trumpet, because I thought the girls wouldn't like me. So I never practiced.- Wynton Marsalis

10-23-2009, 12:33 PM	#3
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 4,253	Re: Chops gone, brain gone It is real hard to predict how long a burn-out will last. The fun just plain goes away (perhaps to that same dimension where socks in the wash disapear to). Kick the horn under the bed, tell it to stay, and do some fun stuff for a while. Hikes/walks are a good opportunity to meditate on why you love(d) playing. Having done so, turn it into some self-affirming self-talk. Stuff like "I enjoy playing and others enjoy playing with and listening to me." Listen to your favorite pieces. Spend some time each day at TM. After a while, the itch will come back. Have fun! __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

10-23-2009, 12:53 PM	#4
dpa10 New Friend Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 35	Re: Chops gone, brain gone Are you a nervous wreck because you can't play? Or are you so upset that you have lost interest? If the latter is true, don't be afraid to seek professional help. Anxiety and depression can be very debilitating. Good luck.

10-23-2009, 01:11 PM	#5
EdMann Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 162	Re: Chops gone, brain gone Trumpet playing ain't everything, but music is! Play piano for a bit, listen to the iPod, shop for a cheap vintage horn but definately take a day off. IMO ed

10-23-2009, 01:53 PM	#6
Markie Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Clarksburg, WV Posts: 734	Re: Chops gone, brain gone FrankMike says: "It is over I have reached the bottom" ------------------ If you were to ask a scholarly Christian, "What is the definition of Hell"? They would probably say " A kingdom where no Hope resides and who's capital is Pandamonium". Well.......you ain't in Hell yet so go blow off the steam (whatever it is), come back with a fresh attitude and get to work! You're just not a musician, you're a trumpet player damned it!!!!!!! Last edited by Markie; 10-31-2009 at 09:18 PM.

10-23-2009, 02:44 PM	#7
Pedal C Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Denver, Co. Posts: 798	Re: Chops gone, brain gone When something I usually love becomes unbearable for whatever reason, I just get away from it. No trumpet playing, no listening, no thinking about hte trumpet. For me, a day or two is all that I need to remember why I like playing in the first place and I can come back with refreshed. __________________ "The oboe's A is to make sure we still play it 1 and 2" - Bud Herseth "One way or another, every patient stops bleeding." - Scrubs

10-23-2009, 03:30 PM	#8
alderdaveson New Friend Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Massena, NY Posts: 1	Re: Chops gone, brain gone To become obssessed with anything is NOT healthy. In our world, you have to find some solitude and quiet. You have to make yourself slow down and smell the roses. Allcliches,but absolutely necessary to find some place in your mind that you can stand and that can stand you. I quit playing for a year in the 80s when I went through bar fights at gigs, lots of negative stuff, lousey rhythm sections, noise and ear issues. Depending on how old you are you will be able to put things in perspective and determine what is most important. Trumpet is only one very small part of a life unless it is your bread and butter, for your daily sustenance and you need it as your source of survival. Life and death are serious, trumpet playing is way out on the fringe. Ask anybody who has had serious health issues, they will be honest and tell you what is truly important. If you have a serious depression issue that is something that will need treatment. Don't sell yourself short and wait to find out. Talk to a 20 or 30 year lifer band director. Especially one who is a trumpet player. Buddha said "all life is suffering". Who am I to second guess him?

10-23-2009, 04:28 PM	#9
MTROSTER Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 89	Re: Chops gone, brain gone Put away your horn for a week and don't even think about it. Then go back;it always has worked for me.

10-23-2009, 08:09 PM	#10
bobd0 Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 70	Re: Chops gone, brain gone You could always try what I did when I reached bottom; put the horn down for forty years then pick it up again and suffer deep regret -- every day for the rest of your life -- for ever having put it down. You can't make up for lost time.

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