Could this be the future for musicians?

Eclipsehornplayer · 10-03-2006, 03:25 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/10/03/m...bot/index.html

I don't know how to re-act to this yet. On one hand I think its neat; on the other if a robot can play along learn and adapt what do they need section players for? And if the robots become smart enough who knows?

It's one thing to have recorded music coming from the pit; can you imagine having a robotic orchestra?

Hummmmm......

Something to think about

Either way I'm a pro-human kinda guy. Let's hope they don't advance this too much.

Dale Proctor · 10-03-2006, 03:33 PM

Think about the cheapskates who usually set the scale for paying musicians for gigs. Think they would spring for the $$$ to buy "blowbots"? Or an enterprising businessman who would buy a set to rent out - it would take years to recoup the start-up. Then there are repairs, storage, transportation, setup, and horns to buy. No, it's much cheaper to pay some trumpet hack like me $50 or $100 to show up and play a gig. I provide my own horn, transportation, off-site storage (house), and repairs(doctor bills).

Eclipsehornplayer · 10-03-2006, 04:50 PM

I'd think that you're right Dale.....

I was just musing out loud I guess.

I'm sure someone; somewhere; will try it.

Hopefully it'll fail!

Dale Proctor · 10-03-2006, 05:05 PM

Yes, my reply was somewhat tongue-in cheek. In my opinion, when live music is automated, it really isn't "live" any more. These contraptions are interesting, and will probably lead to some beneficial uses and offshoots such as the many everyday items developed from NASA research. A mechanical alternative to hiring live musicians was invented long ago - the phonograph.

Clarence · 10-07-2006, 02:05 PM

Hey i know some cat,s that can play like a robot....
but they lack feeling and soul robot,s play parts, but were is the soul the feeling, ever see a robot play from the heart?
Will a robot,s playing ever bring tears to your eye,s.
Let,s not forget the human factor here, key word being human.
peace and hairgrease!

Tootsall · 10-07-2006, 02:49 PM

Clarence... "WORD"!

Alex Yates · 10-07-2006, 03:34 PM

Yo' Clarence, you put that robot on "super blast".

Clarence · 10-07-2006, 07:49 PM

Hi Alex,HI toots!

Tootsall · 10-07-2006, 07:56 PM

Clarence, you are right on ... really. "Music" survived the music box, the player piano, the recording machine, sampling systems, the Moog (and all of it's variants), and now it'll survive a "robot". Why? For exactly the reason you pointed out: "LIVE MUSIC" can only be just that... LIVE... and therefor Human.

Now you'll have to excuse me while I finish cooking dinner... in a hurry 'cause we're headed off to see/hear the Canadian Brass this evening... LIVE!

ccNochops · 10-07-2006, 08:13 PM

No director will be able to stand the response from a robot after he wings the baton at it for blowing an entrance for the 50th time. "You moronic, non-playing, piece of silica & titanium......whoosh......pingggg." Then nothing but silence, no attitude, no mumblings, no mutes getting kicked over, blowing the entrance just one more time outta spite.....just silence. Nope....ain't gonna work

10-03-2006, 03:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Eclipsehornplayer Forte User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Flat Rock, Michigan Brand: Eclipse, Bach, and Getzen Posts: 2,395	Could this be the future for musicians? http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/10/03/m...bot/index.html I don't know how to re-act to this yet. On one hand I think its neat; on the other if a robot can play along learn and adapt what do they need section players for? And if the robots become smart enough who knows? It's one thing to have recorded music coming from the pit; can you imagine having a robotic orchestra? Hummmmm...... Something to think about Either way I'm a pro-human kinda guy. Let's hope they don't advance this too much.
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10-03-2006, 03:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dale Proctor Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Heart of Dixie Brand: Bach, vintage Conn Posts: 618	Think about the cheapskates who usually set the scale for paying musicians for gigs. Think they would spring for the $$$ to buy "blowbots"? Or an enterprising businessman who would buy a set to rent out - it would take years to recoup the start-up. Then there are repairs, storage, transportation, setup, and horns to buy. No, it's much cheaper to pay some trumpet hack like me $50 or $100 to show up and play a gig. I provide my own horn, transportation, off-site storage (house), and repairs(doctor bills).
	__________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away." - Sir Thomas Beecham Olde Towne Brass www.otbrass.com Brass Band of Huntsville www.brassbandofhuntsville.org

10-03-2006, 04:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
Eclipsehornplayer Forte User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Flat Rock, Michigan Brand: Eclipse, Bach, and Getzen Posts: 2,395	I'd think that you're right Dale..... I was just musing out loud I guess. I'm sure someone; somewhere; will try it. Hopefully it'll fail!
	__________________ Eclipse MHY Bb Trumpet with interchangable leadpipes Bach 229 25A C Trumpet Getzen Capri Bb Cornet GR & Monette mouthpieces

10-03-2006, 05:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dale Proctor Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Heart of Dixie Brand: Bach, vintage Conn Posts: 618	Yes, my reply was somewhat tongue-in cheek. In my opinion, when live music is automated, it really isn't "live" any more. These contraptions are interesting, and will probably lead to some beneficial uses and offshoots such as the many everyday items developed from NASA research. A mechanical alternative to hiring live musicians was invented long ago - the phonograph.
	__________________ "Brass bands are all very well in their place - outdoors and several miles away." - Sir Thomas Beecham Olde Towne Brass www.otbrass.com Brass Band of Huntsville www.brassbandofhuntsville.org

10-07-2006, 02:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Clarence Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 732	Hey i know some cat,s that can play like a robot.... but they lack feeling and soul robot,s play parts, but were is the soul the feeling, ever see a robot play from the heart? Will a robot,s playing ever bring tears to your eye,s. Let,s not forget the human factor here, key word being human. peace and hairgrease!
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10-07-2006, 02:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Clarence... "WORD"!

10-07-2006, 03:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Alex Yates Forte User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Brand: ECLIPSE Posts: 2,401	Yo' Clarence, you put that robot on "super blast".
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10-07-2006, 07:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Clarence Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 732	Hi Alex,HI toots!
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10-07-2006, 07:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Clarence, you are right on ... really. "Music" survived the music box, the player piano, the recording machine, sampling systems, the Moog (and all of it's variants), and now it'll survive a "robot". Why? For exactly the reason you pointed out: "LIVE MUSIC" can only be just that... LIVE... and therefor Human. Now you'll have to excuse me while I finish cooking dinner... in a hurry 'cause we're headed off to see/hear the Canadian Brass this evening... LIVE!

10-07-2006, 08:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
ccNochops Pianissimo User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 87	Nope...ain't gonna work No director will be able to stand the response from a robot after he wings the baton at it for blowing an entrance for the 50th time. "You moronic, non-playing, piece of silica & titanium......whoosh......pingggg." Then nothing but silence, no attitude, no mumblings, no mutes getting kicked over, blowing the entrance just one more time outta spite.....just silence. Nope....ain't gonna work
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