I just bach a brand new bach strad 180s 37 from wwbw. To be totaly honest i really dont like it. It seems rather big, and kind of heavy. I hate to to say it..but it also looks kind of cheap!I guess you can say it just isent the horn from me. Want a horn for big band jazz and small ensamble jazz. A horn that can do alittle of everything i guess you can say. Was considering a schilke b1 or the new yamaha custom la. The wwbw guy keeps telling me not to get a schilke...and if i do to get a b5. Any advice on how they play..and which to get?? Thanx.