Hammers have no place on 98% of bell flare dents.
Even WITH the correct tools ($2500.00 worth to date) I'm still learning after 6 years....
" It's a dog eat dog world out there and I'm wearing Milk-Bone underwear" Norm Peterson "Cheers"
"No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up" Lilly Tomlin
If you are messing around, that youtube above shows you some things that you should buy or DIY. I do not assume that you would tackle a critical instrument without experience.
Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.
My first repair tool I started with was a 3"x1" engine piston pin, with this I was able to successfully remove dents in a bell down as far as I could reach, next was an assortment of steel balls from 1/4" to 1" from a bearing supplier, softened, drilled and threaded to fit a selection of steel rods of various diameters and lengths.
Next I purchased an economy set of dent olives, flexible driver and small planishing hammer from Votaw Tools, cost around $500, small hand held gas torch $100 from local jewellers supplies. These are the only tools I have purchased. I have made several tapered mandrels of various lengths and tapers from scrap steel bar I have scrounged, a 2 handed roller and simple wooden jig to hold a trumpet while soldering.
I have had a good relationship over 30 years with a repairman who has been willing to let me watch him at work and discuss techniques with me (answer stupid questions).
While I don't want to recommend using a drumstick, Note that the drumstick method has been used by many in the past- sometimes when other equipment wasn't available. I've seen a master repairman push a couple of dents out in the field with one. Looked brand new. Of course, he could have probably used anything. It really becomes more of an art. Proper equipment is always best. (I just commented on the book, Zen and the art of motorcycle maintanence in another post, but seems to relate here.
Olds Supers, LA (1953), Ful. (1962)
Olds Recording, LA (1952)
Olds Studio, LA (1953)
Olds Special, Ful. (1964)
Olds Ambassador, LA (1954)
Olds Ambassador, Ful. (1973)
Bach Strads 37-(1967, 1970, 1974, 1982)
Bach Strad 72 MLV (1973), 72* (1982)
Kanstul 1500 (2002), 1502 (2008), 1503 (2002)
Kanstul 1537 (2007)
Kanstul Chicago (2000)
Kanstul 1510 C
King Liberty (1929,1929)
King Liberty 2 (1938, 1944)
King Liberty 2b (1950)
J.H. Darby 45 USA
Holton (Revelation) 1924
Kanstul 1525 Flugelhorn
N71 French Horn Dent Rod 1/2” (12.7mm), 3ft (.91mm) “S” Curve – Ferree's Tools Inc I had some types that I could bend to the right curve, and when it was straight it worked like the drumstick. But I can't remember using a drumstick on bells.
Inderbinen Alpha and Inderbinen Studie
Monette Prana B6 S1 82
Monette Prana B6L S1 82
CarolBrass QT Custom (quartertone)
Amrein AFL 8511 V flugelhorn
Amrein Titanium 7FL
"I'm hungry and need something to eat!" (a hungry) -Dizzy Gillespie
You need a heck of a lot more than a drum stick. Thats for sure.
I popped a brace off my Scherzer piccolo while trying to remove a dent with the handle of a wooden spoon. The bell angle moved about 15 degrees.
"A tool good enough to be so used and not too good"C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength
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