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Old 04-01-2008, 09:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Ear Wins

All I can say is train your ear. This was recently posted somewhere: http://www.trumpetguild.org/pdf/2002...0206clinic.pdf
Anyway, I just got back from orchestra, and man I was dead at the end. We pulled out the James Bond Medley, and I covered the first part (I was sight reading since the 1st guy didn't show up today). Since it's a community orchestra we all share the different parts rather than audition for seats. Anyway, I knew I wasn't going to be able to play it, but lo and behold. As soon as I played the first note it was like I was totally fresh and a different player. My sound was awesome and the range was easy. The mental sound model of how James Bond should be played and how it should sound was so strong in me that the horn virtually played itself even though I could barely hack out the end of the previous song. Having a strong internal sound concept and knowing how each particular song should sound is the key to endurance and range (if everything else is working). I'm seriously sold on this idea now.

Another success story is back in high school we did Crazy For You, which is a tough trumpet book. At first, it was so hard, but by the end I was playing it 10 times a week with ease. The shows were almost effortless because the music was so well ingrained in me. This ability did not transfer over to stuff that I didn't know so well. Anyway, I'm probably way behind on this and most people here probably already do singing exercises.

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Another success story is back in high school was did Crazy For You, which is a tough trumpet book. At first, it was so hard, but by the end I was playing it 10 times a week with ease. The shows were almost effortless because the music was so well ingrained in me. This ability did not transfer over to stuff that I didn't know so well. Anyway, I'm probably way behind on this and most people here probably already do singing exercises.
Ouch..........I played the original "Crazy for You" in the last century
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Ouch..........I played the original "Crazy for You" in the last century
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Double ouch,
I wasn't playing trumpet in the last century
But yeah, listening helps,
Scherezade's double/triple tonguing sections
but listening to the first trumpet play them helped more than a bit
and i think that's the story of most of playing in orchestras: listen to the part and play what's on the page as a reference
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Double ouch,
I wasn't playing trumpet in the last century
But yeah, listening helps,
Scherezade's double/triple tonguing sections
but listening to the first trumpet play them helped more than a bit
and i think that's the story of most of playing in orchestras: listen to the part and play what's on the page as a reference
Then..you shouldn't be up this late!
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Re: The Ear Wins

Our KCB director, Dr. Tom Evans of Kalamazoo College, is always telling is to "listen to the music, it will always tell you how to play it" and that approach works, along with everyone singing parts on occaision on difficult ensemble passages, whether melodic or rhythmic. The more experience one has is absorbing as many different styles of music over the years, the easier it is to translate to the sound you need to come out of your horn.

For our next concert on the 12th, we are doing several numbers in big band style with a female vocalist and getting many people to "swing" when some are not used to it, has been a bit of frustration to Tom, but we are getting better.

Please check out our revised website Kalamazoo Concert Band. There are quite a few clips you can play if you like.
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