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    Re: Embouchure Change

    I would recommend going to an embouchure specialist or chop doc or someone who is at least very familiar with different embouchure types. People such as Jeanne Pocius, Pops McLaughlin, Jerry Callet, Jeff Smiley, etc. also have books and DVDs etc available and you may want to check out the books and get an in person or online consult or even phone consult with one who's philosophy you agree with the most. I've learned some great things from all of them and others.
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    Re: Embouchure Change

    As the original poster did not advise us of success or defeat, it is hard to say what they really understood. Dragging this thread up out of the past does show that in spite of all of the google search power, more available information does not make people smarter.

    I can't comment on anything over the internet other than to mention the fact that the lips are only a very small part of endurance, range and tone. There is seldom reason to change your embouchure by force. Getting body use and breathing issues under control and working out a solid daily routine normally helps to gravitate the chops to their most efficient state - without risks. Unfortunately, this seems to be too simple for most.

    You being the only trumpet major makes you the guinea pig. Your approach makes me hope that it is more guinea than pig. I have my doubts.
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    Re: Embouchure Change

    Quote Originally Posted by rowuk View Post
    To be honest, I generally do not discuss embouchure changes with my students. They get exercizes to correct whatever may be wrong as I don't want them intellectualising the process.
    Any overhaul of your playing should involve body use, breathing and at the end the mechanics in that order (I call this "the basics"). Playing with pressure means that the work has not been divided correctly between those 3 factors. Anything that you do wrong has to be compensated for somewhere else.
    Yoga or martial arts are very good to get in touch with your body.
    Swimming is good for breathing and timing.
    The mechanics are dependent on your present state - and that is not diagnosable over the internet.
    B.S. sometimes you need a change yoga etc.nonsense my 3 cents Anthony

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    Re: Embouchure Change

    Quote Originally Posted by anthony View Post
    B.S. sometimes you need a change yoga etc.nonsense my 3 cents Anthony
    Ph.D. Sometimes but rarely does a player need to make this single change... more often, using Rowuk's advice will succeed and put a return on the performance investment that is orders of magnitude over the 3 cent change.
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    Re: Embouchure Change

    I can to relate to what you have said concerning range and endurance. What I have found is that the real problem, for me at least, was not using the air like it should be used. The following link explains an excercise that can help, it did for me, but what helped me more is how the author describes his approach. Specifically the section where he describes playing the horn without making an embouchure at all. It is worth a read, and may help. It has certainly helped me to understand and get the feeling of using air properly.

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