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Old 02-04-2007, 11:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Eureka!...no sticky valves

I recently posted a Thread complaining about the 3rd valve sticking on a couple of old horns that I have. This was after cleaning and examing casings and valves thoroughly. I got some good input from TM members, but I also contacted Ken from Ultra Pure, and followed his suggestions. I cleaned the casingings and valves, stretched the valve springs slightly, and put ONE DROP OF ULTRA PURE on each valve, and then thined it out by smearing it on each valve with my fingers. EUREKA! problem solved. I must admit that the action is stiffer than I'd like, but I think it's the least expensive fix on an old horn. As I told Ken, by the time I feel worthy of an expensive Pro. horn my fingers will be so pumped-up that it will feel like I'm pressing on air. I hope this thread benefits other TMers having the same problem.
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Old 02-04-2007, 12:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Eureka!...no sticky valves

Crow,

1 drop huh? I've 3 bottle of Ultra Pure in the cabinet. I'm 1.5 bottles of other oil from using them.

How much are you supposed to use generally?

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Crow,

1 drop huh? I've 3 bottle of Ultra Pure in the cabinet. I'm 1.5 bottles of other oil from using them.

How much are you supposed to use generally?

Thanks,

Richard
Rich,

Call the old bottles of oil a wash and get going on that Ultra-Pure!

You'll wonder why you waited!

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Old 02-04-2007, 06:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Eureka!...no sticky valves

Richard,
I'm finding that Ken's suggestion works for my otherwise two troubled horns. His instructions to me for my sticky valves was to put one drop and smear it over the valve with my fingers to thin the dose out. This along with stretching the springs SLIGHTLY has taken care of my problem. Keep in mind my situation deals with 2 well used horns from the 70s. I have another well used old horn that does fine with a couple of drops, and a slight turn (which I understand could be a bad thing to do). I might stop doing that and buy my next supply of UP oil in the spray bottle. I can't imagine using any more than a drop or two for any horn, but as usual with trumpet standards "there are none" (except in the science that applies to building them...I guess?)........tom
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Re: Eureka!...no sticky valves

I have a brand new horn, well actually used, Bach TR200 silver. My first key is also sticking like crazy, no matter how I treat it with oil. Should I use that same method with ULTRA PURE to make it so it is freed up, or should I do something else?
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barato, I just got back to reading this old thread. I'm not the one to tell you what to do, but if it doesn't work and you ruin your spring you can always buy another one at a good repair shop. Good-luck..........by the way, i'm not sure what I did is full proof. It's been better, but occassionally still sticks.
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