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    Re: Great players and bad habits

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    I'm paraphrasing Claude Gordon I think here but he said something to this affect to one of his students when asked how come they couldn't play like person x was. "When you get as good as them then you can play however you like. Until that time...."

    Think about when you learned how to drive. Both hands on the wheel, 10 and 2. full 3 second stops, etc., etc. Now after you have been driving for 25 years you can lean back, have the radio on, and roll around with one hand on the wheel. You can even adjust your mirrors while driving! You don't do that while you're in drivers ed or probably not while newly licensed. You do those things after you've been on the road for a while. I wouldn't automatically assumed because someone drives that way that is the way they were taught.

    I'm a new horn player here and I appreciate being taught such fundamentals. For me that makes the path between operating the horn and making music a lot easier. There will be plenty of time for my own character, style, and personal habits. Notice I said personal not bad.

    Great post, although I'm about a year short of learning how to drive. This post wasn't actually about me, I listen to everything my band director tells since he's been playing trumpet long than I've even been alive, the aim of this post was about arrogant players that think they're the better than Bud Herseth because of a pinkie. If you read the comments of any youtube video show casing a famous trumpet player, you're bound to find least 15 idiots criticizing them because that player plays slightly differently than they were taught. That kind of closemindedness was more what I meant.

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    I think it's great that you have discovered that making good music is what it's all about! It's good to see young players searching and thinking about their instrument and music making, and not totally focused on 'higher, louder, faster'. Just be careful that you don't use it as an excuse for not taking care of the fundamentals as you develop as a player.
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    Good stuff, Adrian.

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    this is really a great thread ...
    Robin's comments always solid .... loved the ice block.. too funny .. I would send my son to him for lessons just for the analogies alone
    The forums are really hard to size up where someone is coming from.. weither it's some disgruntled kid who is seeking validation or an honest inquiry.
    Just don't want to see us chase away the open minded ones who ask the touchy questions...
    but great answers from all ... which is why I dig this forum
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    +1 on the Rowuk ice block story. ".... thaw time to think about the consequences."


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