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Old 06-15-2007, 08:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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High? Double?

Hey everyone, I was just wondering what the most commonly accepted "dividing notes" are between regular notes, high notes, and double notes.

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Old 06-15-2007, 09:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey everyone, I was just wondering what the most commonly accepted "dividing notes" are between regular notes, high notes, and double notes.

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I'm 50 years old, and back when I was a kid the C above the staff (2 octaves above piano Middle C) was High C, the beginning of the "High's", and the notes above it were High ***..., then the next C was a Double High C, the beginning of the "Double High's", and the notes above it were Double High ***...

But many teenagers in the trumpet forums lately have been calling High F's "Double F's".
And some pro's have posted somewhere that the Bb below Double C can be called Double Bb for some reason I don't understand because they don't call the G below that a "Double G".
But someone from Germany explained in a forum within the last few months what a European teenager had meant when he referred to a "Quadruple C", explaining that some Europeans use a nomenclature in which a Double C or whatever is called a Quadruple C, apparently because they do the figuring from piano middle C even though we are talking about playing trumpet?

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Old 06-15-2007, 10:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: High? Double?

My understanding was that the Doubles started with the "double g" being the one that is an octave above top line g. I got this from my high school band director. Anybody know what the general rule is?? or is it a little confusing for everybody??
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I'm 50 years old, and back when I was a kid the C above the staff (2 octaves above piano Middle C) was High C, the beginning of the "High's", and the notes above it were High ***..., then the next C was a Double High C, the beginning of the "Double High's", and the notes above it were Double High ***...

But many teenagers in the trumpet forums lately have been calling High F's "Double F's".
And some pro's have posted somewhere that the Bb below Double C can be called Double Bb for some reason I don't understand because they don't call the G below that a "Double G".
But someone from Germany explained in a forum within the last few months what a European teenager had meant when he referred to a "Quadruple C", explaining that some Europeans use a nomenclature in which a Double C or whatever is called a Quadruple C, apparently because they do the figuring from piano middle C even though we are talking about playing trumpet?

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I found the post about German nomenclature:

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"Re: help please!

Sauer wrote:
yeah sorry, my private teacher just calls the quad C a double C.


Rowuk responded:

In Germany we call double C C4. C is the second space in the bass clef, C1 is middle C, C2 3rd space in the treble clef and so on. Quad C makes sense - it is just not common in the US for instance

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Old 06-16-2007, 05:01 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: High? Double?

There seems to be many different options here!
My stand is: if you have a clean, usable, repeatable double C, nobody asks any questions. I learned that the double octave always starts with C and that Cb is a source of contention.
For all of you SQUEAKERS out there, figure out what RESONANT means before starting a semantics war.

For those interested, here are some interesting links that back up my post:
Dolmetsch Online - Music Theory Online - Staffs, Clefs & Pitch Notation
Frequencies
Scientific pitch notation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Amazing what a minimal amount of googling can produce!
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Old 06-16-2007, 07:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: High? Double?

Just remember 95% of all trumpet playing is below high c. Make sure you have that range with good sound.
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