Homework Hotline - Music Theory for Dummies

latinjazzcat · 01-03-2005, 03:32 PM

::Bangs head against desk:: I'm working on analyzing a piece for music theory, and I need some assistance. There is a chord that, from the bass to soprano, reads like this: "C, G, D, F". Maybe my brain is just fried, but for the life of me I can't figure out what kind of chord this is. I know I should know it, and I've probably seen it a million times, but I am seriously stumped. Any help would be much appreciated.

Heavens2kadonka · 01-03-2005, 03:57 PM

What key is the piece in?

Gosh, Ive just realized I have to get back into the Music Theory swing next week....

Van

MUSICandCHARACTER · 01-03-2005, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by latinjazzcat

::Bangs head against desk:: I'm working on analyzing a piece for music theory, and I need some assistance. There is a chord that, from the bass to soprano, reads like this: "C, G, D, F". Maybe my brain is just fried, but for the life of me I can't figure out what kind of chord this is. I know I should know it, and I've probably seen it a million times, but I am seriously stumped. Any help would be much appreciated.

They key is quite important. Also, you have no flat or sharps listed above. That makes the key likely to be C maj or G maj.

A C7 chord is usually
C E G B
you have
C G D F
not really close

A C9 chord is usually
C E G B D
you have
C G D F
closer

A C11 chord is usually
C E G B D F
you have
C G D F

Seems to be a C11 chord using four notes.

It will be a strange sounding chord with an open 5th twice, but these chords are often done that way. It would resolve nicely to a IV (inverted) chord:

F A C F moving the G to the A and the D to the C

Let's see if this works:

:treble: :c: :g: :d6: :f6:
moving to
:treble: :c: :a: :c6: :f6:

latinjazzcat · 01-03-2005, 06:02 PM

Sorry guys

Guess that whole "key signature" idea is kind of important (see, I have learned something from theory). Anyways, I think C11 is right, as if I recall, it resolves to a IV chord. Thanks guys!

Heavens2kadonka · 01-03-2005, 10:53 PM

Quote:

They key is quite important. Also, you have no flat or sharps listed above. That makes the key likely to be C maj or G maj.

A C7 chord is usually
C E G B
you have
C G D F
not really close

A C9 chord is usually
C E G B D
you have
C G D F
closer

A C11 chord is usually
C E G B D F
you have
C G D F

Seems to be a C11 chord using four notes.

It will be a strange sounding chord with an open 5th twice, but these chords are often done that way. It would resolve nicely to a IV (inverted) chord:

F A C F moving the G to the A and the D to the C

In case you all missed out on my opinions on Musical theory.

BTW, did/does anyone here have a teacher who used European notation for inversions (Ib for 1st inversion, Ic for 2nd, etc.)

Van

MUSICandCHARACTER · 01-03-2005, 10:59 PM

Quote:

In case you all missed out on my opinions on Musical theory.

Who says music salespeople don't know music?

I last took music theory in 1978. But I am a pretty good arranger when I have some spare time.

See:
http://www.sibeliusmusic.com/cgi-bin...pl?url=docfox/

Jim

Heavens2kadonka · 01-03-2005, 11:11 PM

When I finally get the program to view your arrangements, I'll tell ya what I think...

Going off-subject, but did you recieve my email about ordering some things from you?

Van

MUSICandCHARACTER · 01-04-2005, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavens2kadonka

When I finally get the program to view your arrangements, I'll tell ya what I think...

It is free and takes about a minute to download with dial up!

Quote:

Going off-subject, but did you recieve my email about ordering some things from you?

Van

Off topic, but no, I didn't. Send any email to docfox@ibowtie.com. I even checked my junk filter file, nothing from you (lots of offers for Viagra though!).

Jim

01-03-2005, 03:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
latinjazzcat Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Virginia Posts: 79	Homework Hotline - Music Theory for Dummies ::Bangs head against desk:: I'm working on analyzing a piece for music theory, and I need some assistance. There is a chord that, from the bass to soprano, reads like this: "C, G, D, F". Maybe my brain is just fried, but for the life of me I can't figure out what kind of chord this is. I know I should know it, and I've probably seen it a million times, but I am seriously stumped. Any help would be much appreciated.
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01-03-2005, 06:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
latinjazzcat Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Virginia Posts: 79	Sorry guys Guess that whole "key signature" idea is kind of important (see, I have learned something from theory). Anyways, I think C11 is right, as if I recall, it resolves to a IV chord. Thanks guys!
	__________________ Jesse

01-03-2005, 11:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	When I finally get the program to view your arrangements, I'll tell ya what I think... Going off-subject, but did you recieve my email about ordering some things from you? Van
	__________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

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