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Trumpet Discussion Discuss Horn Section Playing/Doubling Trombone in the General forums; Originally Posted by Mamboman Kehaulani, you have made an interesting point, and Bob Brookmeyer is a beautiful player, and I ...
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    Re: Horn Section Playing/Doubling Trombone

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    Kehaulani, you have made an interesting point, and Bob Brookmeyer is a beautiful player, and I totally dig his playing. But it's such a hard choice between the two instruments. I guess it's really a stylistic thing...

    What sounds and looks better in a horn section? (I.e. What's cooler? And what can handle fast funk lines better)
    IMO, slide Bone. Not because of the effects described in the preceding post - although some well-placed slides can add to the funk - but because generally the sound cuts better. I've played in, and written for, bands that played classic soul, funk and horn-band stuff (Chicago, BS&T, etc.) and I have always used the conventional Bone in those contexts.

    Regarding handling "fast funk lines" not quite sure what you mean. Fast feeling (which can mean repeated notes and rhythms) or fast-moving melodic lines? The conventional Bone's not the most agile for fast linear playing until you put it in its upper register, where there are more possibilities for playing in fewer positions and also for using "false" positions. That means that you'll have to work more on the range, than if you might be doing if you stayed with a valve bone, particularly in a standard jazz context.
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    Re: Horn Section Playing/Doubling Trombone

    I've recently begun doubling on valve trombone.
    I originally wanted to do slide trombone, but I
    just could not find the time to practice both enough
    to master the slide.

    I got a new King 3b. It's a peach.

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    Re: Horn Section Playing/Doubling Trombone

    Hmmmmmmmm Valve bone does look fun... BUT SO IS THE SLIDE AHHH haha. But what i meant about the fast lines is that the valve bone does go faster on the funk lines etc.
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    Re: Horn Section Playing/Doubling Trombone

    Tell that to Bill Watrous!

    The slide trombone is a very forgiving instrument.

    On fast passages, you don't have to be exactly in the correct position to get it done.

    Also on the higher positions, you're only using the first three or four positions.

    The valve trombone player can not play as in tune as a good slide player.


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    Wow. A Poet
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    Re: Horn Section Playing/Doubling Trombone

    Quote Originally Posted by Branson View Post
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    Re: Horn Section Playing/Doubling Trombone

    Although I've now given up the slide T-bone, IMO it is the only instrument I know of that can produce a perfect slur or gliss. Some may prefer a 6 1/2 AL mouthpiece (as I do ) instead of a 12C, but both are common to the T-bone, baritone and euphonium.

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    ....and if you want to stand out from the crowd

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    Ah, that must be Dupac's 'alto' horn. Nice sound though!

    Seth, you have got way too much time on your hands! What on earth are you typing into search engines to find stuff like this?

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