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| Pianissimo User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 78
| How do you get the fingers and tongue in sync? Manny, how do you get the fingers and tongue in sync? I can single tongue passage cleanly, but when I try to double tongue them I fall apart. Even if I take the passage real slow. Thanks John |
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| Piano User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Toronto Canada
Posts: 391
| Double tonguing Hi Double and Tripple Tonguing is one of the hardest things that I have ever mastered on the trumpet, next to the irritating embouchure development nessasary to play properly. the only advice that I have is to get some really good etudes on tonguing and study them long and hard, and do them slowly. Once you get the technique it will be with you for life and will make your technique and style that much better Rick |
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| Utimate User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 5,989
| Dear Jmac, We're going to do this one step at time because there's no other way for me to help. Tonight or whenever the next practice session is, play a triple-tongued C arpeggio from low "C" to high "C" and back down repeatedly and make sure to include the "E"s in both octaves. Fast. Clean but fast. Let me know how that goes then we'll move on. ML |
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| Pianissimo User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 78
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Did you mean 3 per note: CCC EEE GGG CCC or 1 per note triple tongued? John | |
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| Pianissimo User
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SoCal
Posts: 78
| Man thats hard to do. I can play the excersise going up, but I get "tongue tied" coming down. I am treating them as triplettes, is that right? I find it very difficult even at slow speed, 1/4note=60. After about 15 minutes, I was getting tired and didnot notice any improvment. Thanks Manny. John |
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| Utimate User
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 5,989
| Okay, This is what I suspected would happen which is why I gave you that little challenge. We have an issue that is masking another in your case. The issue that is being masked is that of tightness that doesn't give you the clarity to hear yourself well which is vital to good coordination. Go to Arban's page 44 (the slip slurs). Starting with the very first one, set the metronome to quarter = 60. Play but a very legato articulation. Here's your job: each note must sound with the same timbre as the other. That is, play with a TAH or TOH articulation for each note. No TEE, no TIH. I'm going to assume that you are going to take a maximum breath for each one ( no holding the breath before you play, either; breatheinbreatheout). If you have to stop to breathe in the middle, do so! It's no crime. Single, double, and triple tongue as needed. Remember: LEGATISSIMO! Let's talk again after a few days of this. Wax on, wax off. If you don't know what that means, rent the Karate Kid TONIGHT! ML |
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| Mezzo Forte User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Manchester / London
Posts: 762
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Cheers, Jack. | |
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