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Trumpet Discussion Discuss How to pick mputhpiece in the General forums; Originally Posted by frankmike Hi I have a problem -I change back and forth through my approx. 20 different mouthpieces ...
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    Re: How to pick mputhpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by frankmike View Post
    Hi I have a problem -I change back and forth through my approx. 20 different mouthpieces

    I know I am harming my embouchure

    But how to pick the right one? How will I kow that particular mpc is the right one

    what should I look for?
    In my opinion, comfort and sound are the most important things to look for. Find the mouthpiece that is the most comfortable for you to play on that also allows you to get the best sound or the sound you are looking for

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    Re: How to pick mputhpiece

    We do NOT damage our embouchure by switching between 20 mouthpieces! The mouthpieces are metal and have no evil spirit inside them.


    As far as picking a mouthpiece goes, take them all to a really nice sounding hall and play to a second set of ears that you trust. Let them tell you what sounds good 100 feet out. Then LISTEN to THEM.

    I have previously recommended putting all other mouthpieces in a tupperware box, filling it with water and then deep freezing them. That prevents impulsive lack of control.

    All that being said, I have different mouthpieces for different playing situations and use the one (or more) that are coming up next when I practice:

    Symphony: big deep mouthpiece
    Commericial/BigBand non lead: smaller shallower mouthpiece
    Lead: specialty mouthpiece
    Natural trumpet: specialty mouthpiece
    Cornetto: specialty mouthpiece
    Flugel/Cornet: deep vee mouthpiece

    The practice time per day increases linearly with the quantity of mouthpieces used: 1+n=T*(1+n)
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    Re: How to pick mputhpiece

    I've played for 20+ years on the same mouthpieces--different cup depths, different cup designs, different throats, different backbores. Each matched to a particular horn. Each sharing a common denominator, rim diameter and profile. I recently bought a Wick 3FL when I got my new flugel--needed a different shank. When I can afford it I'll be having a mouthpiece made with the 3FL cup and throat and a Schilke 13A4a rim. I also bought a Wcik 3 for cornet--wrecked the intonation--I'll be sticking with what I have. Loved what the Curry 5FL did for my C-Trumpet--yep, another custom mouthpiece with a 5FL cup and a 13A4a rim. After that the Wicks and the Curry will be for sale--let someone else try them for less than new prices.
    Anyway, my philosophy of mouthpiece selection is find what works and use it till it doesn't. If changing cup, throat, backbore will get you where you need to go, that's what you do--no safari necessary. But if you do have to make a complete change--it needs to be organized and purposed, and it may take a while. It really took me a couple of months to figure out the Wick 3 for my cornet wasn't going to work--fell in love with the sound so it took me a couple of months to begin to hear exactly how bad the intonation issues were. So take your time and don't just hazardously jump around between 20 miscellaneous mouthpieces.
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    Re: How to pick mputhpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by mrsemman View Post
    The problem with asking about mouthpiece or horn advice on a forum, is that what works for the individual poster, may not work for you. If picking one mouthpiece out of twenty and playing it, doesn't work for you, then get some professional advice.

    no, on contrary -all 20 of them work fine for me

    but I just cannot pick one and stick with it. I have Yamaha 11c4 that I lets say prefer -but it seems a bit too tihgt. Than I have yahama 16c4 but it is maybe a bit too big. Than I have Gewa 7c but it feels just the same as Yamaha 11c4, Than I have no name Bach 1C copy but it feels a bit big. Than I have no name Bach 7C copy that feels nice much like Yamha 11c4 and it is also a megatone. Than I have bunch of other, I have one vintage holton that I havent properly cleaned yet therefore not tested properly
    Also one member here from TM recently sold me Al Hirt D mpc -and that mpc is just awfull and I will throw it or sell it-so it is probably 19 left to pick from

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    Re: How to pick mputhpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by frankmike View Post
    no, on contrary -all 20 of them work fine for me

    then why are you worried about it??????
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    Sometimes multiple types work well.

    The decision isn't finding the perfect mouthpiece, because it depends on what you want.... what aspects do you want MOST? Good tone? Endurance? Flexibility? Piercing lead playing? There is no mouthpiece that optimizes all of those, but maybe you can focus on one or two aspects. I would focus on a certain kind of mouthpiece first, and if you want mouthpieces for other styles, put those decisions on hold for a while.

    A pre-requisite for a mouthpiece you want is that it should feel good (maybe not necessarily the BEST always, but at least "good"). Listen to your body and take some time with trying out the mouthpieces.

    Good luck.
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    Re: How to pick mputhpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by kingtrumpet View Post
    then why are you worried about it??????:
    I guess that it can be too practical to carry around a box with 20 mouthpieces...What??? Nothing about asymmetric mps? I can't believe it!!!

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    Re: How to pick mputhpiece

    Have someone bore the throat one drill size on your Yamaha 11C4 or the Gewa 7C which you say feels the same. Thiis will open it up a teeny bit so it shouldn't feel as stuffy. Put the others away (or sell or trade them) and play that piece for 6 months. Find a piece of music you like to play which has challenges both for flexibility, sound, and range, and after you have practiced it for 6 months decide what part of the music is giving you the most trouble.

    If you have good flexibility but want a bigger broader sound, go a bit deeper. If you like the sound, but need more flexibility, get a less V-shape or go a bit shallower. Taking all of this to your teacher is a good idea. Staying with one piece (and one horn) for 6 months will take your mind of mouthpieces (and equipment in general) and allow you to focus on playing music.
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    Re: How to pick mputhpiece

    Quote Originally Posted by trumpetnick View Post
    I guess that it can be too practical to carry around a box with 20 mouthpieces...What??? Nothing about asymmetric mps? I can't believe it!!!
    I have John Lynch's 342 lead Assymmetric mpc and find it will take me readily into the altissimo range as advertised. It's design promotes 1/3rd upper lip and 2/3 lower lip as too was no problem for me. However, I found that it's very flat rim was just not that comfortable and had Doug M do as much as possible to round it. I haven't yet given it an adequate trial since Doug M's work, since I'm feathering my health capability in recovery, but at first pass it does seem better although I've not pushed it to the double highs yet. It seems I am just one that prefers rounded rims while many don't. Still, I do make just about any mpc for different brass instruments work for me, be it picc, Suzy or any in between (I haven't yet played a C, D, or Eb trumpet or flugel).

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