Olds Supers, LA (1953), Ful. (1962)
Olds Recording, LA (1952)
Olds Studio, LA (1953)
Olds Special, Ful. (1964)
Olds Ambassador, LA (1954)
Olds Ambassador, Ful. (1973)
Bach Strads 37-(1967, 1970, 1974, 1982)
Bach Strad 72 MLV (1973), 72* (1982)
Kanstul 1500 (2002), 1502 (2008), 1503 (2002)
Kanstul 1537 (2007)
Kanstul Chicago (2000)
Kanstul 1510 C
King Liberty (1929,1929)
King Liberty 2 (1938, 1944)
King Liberty 2b (1950)
J.H. Darby 45 USA
Holton (Revelation) 1924
Kanstul 1525 Flugelhorn
There was a series of 927 Besson cornets (around 1988/9, shortly after they introduced that numbering system) that were intended to be played with extremely deep Denis Wick mouthpieces (the #4 Denis Wick of that time was about three millimetres deeper than the current model!) and therefore needed to be shorter to be compatible with A=440. I presume you've got one of these. Try changing the mpc - perhaps a 3c Flugel mouthpiece would bethe solution: It would still fit into the leadpipe, but would be slightly longer than the 3c, and would have a deeper cup. Problem solved.
As regards your 3c: Is it an original Bach 3c, or a shorter clone?
Note to all you lawyers out there...the above statement is merely my opinion, and is not presented as fact, or as any better that anybody else. I am not a pro or a teacher, nor do I claim to be. I do not accept responsibility for any actions taken by anyone reading my comments. For entertainment purposes only.
I would also say, if it plays in tune and doesn't fall out the horn, who cares! It pulls out that far for a reason. I had the guy next to me tell me my slide was pulled out too far. I commented that I was in tune. He insisted I COULDN'T be and that I was flat. Put the tuner on it and I was spot on. Put the tuner on his horn and he was almost a half step sharp! I said you need to pull your slide out. He blushed and said he couldn't, it was stuck ( this was 4 yrs ago and it's STILL stuck). I don't take his advise seriously anymore. I would trust barliman's info regarding your horn. Get the DW mpc or just keep doing what you're doing. It doesn't matter if it's in tune.
Knowledge is freedom, and ignorance is slavery - Miles Davis
The difference between a beginner and pro mouthpiece is practice - tobylou8
Nobody has learned how to play the trumpet. It's endless. - Maynard Ferguson
Don't be afraid to try something different. The Ark was built by an amateur and the Titanic was built by a group of experienced engineers.
By the inch it's a cinch, by the yard, it's hard!
In a quest to get a darker, mellower sound, I contacted Mark Curry, and he recommended his 3DC. The first time I played this mouthpiece, the sound was awful, and I thought I had made a mistake by purchasing it, but I stuck with it the rest of the day. The next day my embouchure had adjusted to the new mouthpiece enough that it sounded really nice. I then went through the entire range with a tuner and discovered that I was able to push the tuning slide in to about 2/3 of what it was before, and the inconsistencies in intonation pretty much disappeared.. Within the next week and a half my endurance and especially my upper register improved considerably, and the timbre was beautiful.
Recently I came across a Benge 3 mouthpiece like was supposed to come with my horn, but didn't, and I tried it out. Timbre was slightly fuller than the Curry 3DC, and response was noticeably better; lip slurs were cleaner. And... I was able to push the tuning slide in a little more, maybe half of what we see in your photo.
I purchased the Opus 7 because of its sound, and I was unhappy with the way it played, but since I came upon the solution, I now love this horn. I think your cornet is in need of the right mouthpiece, and I hope you find it soon. Many on TM say that the right stuff will find you if you are patient. I agree; it sure has worked out that way for me countless times. I have to add that the quality of the information available here on TM and the helpfulness and knowledge of the members is humbling.
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