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Trumpet Discussion Discuss Lip compression isn't enough in the General forums; Originally Posted by kingtrumpet and somehow Local357 turned me on to the trombone -- and that helps tremendously in helping ...
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    Re: Lip compression isn't enough

    Quote Originally Posted by kingtrumpet View Post
    and somehow Local357 turned me on to the trombone -- and that helps tremendously in helping the "relaxing part" of the whole equation.
    thanks also to Peter Mcneill on here ---- both gave me excellent advice in transitioning to "double" on the trombone. In any case -- it is working for me!!!
    Like I said, Local's advice is spot on!
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    Re: Lip compression isn't enough

    Quote Originally Posted by gmonady View Post
    Like I said, Local's advice is spot on!
    Most definitely -- and if he ever chooses to "reveal his true identity" -- people will know he is a pro. But onto the discovery portion. I am finding when the trumpet -- doesn't seem to working in the high range (anything above high C to the high A for me) --- for various reasons of dehydration, fatigue, tiredness -- or not enough Mental alertness (yes, go ahead GM and make a joke) ---- IN most cases, if I (we) are NOT focused on our playing, and getting a good start in the opening practice session --- a lot of this can be attributed to "lack of mental alertness", and NOT focusing our apertures to be "flexible" in the centers. Most of us go back to the "tension" that frustration leads to.

    In any case the trombone is a definite learning aid for me ---- for when I switch to the trombone, it helps the embouchure to relax in the center --- so while I may start a practice session with some frustration on the trumpet --- the trombone allows my embouchure to relax --- then I can get on with the trumpet playing part of my session.

    Although this would NOT necessarily be practical in a real life GIG --- it is helping me with the "learning process" of having the firm outer corners of the lips, and the loose, flexible aperture in the mpc. It's all about learning how to play ---- and then doing it, and then REPEATING that which you are able to do.
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    Re: Lip compression isn't enough

    The practice room is the mechanic's workshop. Here, like he we define all inadequacies, address the plan to fix these areas. Including among things avoidance of everything from over training to excessive arm pressure.

    Up on the stage is another matter altogether. When the lights go up in the third set I may ram the damned mouthpiece down my throat to get the parts out. I don't care how much my body protests nor even how much pressure the teeth can take. OK well scratch that. Maybe not my teeth!

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