The lips

YTR-2335 · 03-27-2006, 08:56 PM

Do the lips themselves get conditioned with practice or is it just the embouchure?

Tootsall · 03-27-2006, 08:58 PM

"just the embouchure"? The lips are part of the embouchure. The entire embouchure is strengthened with the right practice.

MrLT · 03-29-2006, 04:44 PM

the lips themselves play a fairly passive role - they just need to be held in such a way as to vibrate freely and thats the job of all the muscles surrounding the mouth and face - the embouchure

Manny Laureano · 03-29-2006, 05:29 PM

What they said.

ML

trjeam · 03-29-2006, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLT

the lips themselves play a fairly passive role - they just need to be held in such a way as to vibrate freely and thats the job of all the muscles surrounding the mouth and face - the embouchure

damn, that was nicely put....

Fudleysmith · 03-30-2006, 08:07 AM

I have found that since my comeback started (14 months) that the soft, moist tissue just inside the visible pink part of my upper lip has changed very slightly in texture. I liken this to the repetetive stress reaction of skin thickening on the palm from hammering, shoveling, etc... You guys that have been playing for a long time probably don't notice this anymore, but I can definately notice it. I kinda think of it as my "guitar fingertip callouses". It is not an external lump. or a dead skin patch, just a different texture right at the vibrating part of my upper lip.

Fudleysmith

trickg · 03-30-2006, 09:22 AM

My wife has said that my lips got softer when I took a year and a half break from playing trumpet and that they hardened back up when I started playing again - kind of the difference between muscle and flab. Two people can both have 16" biceps, but the guy who lifts weights all the time is going to have a harder bicep than the person who is simply overweight. I don't know if this is an applicable analogy or not.

Just a thought.

YTR-2335 · 03-30-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fudleysmith

I have found that since my comeback started (14 months) that the soft, moist tissue just inside the visible pink part of my upper lip has changed very slightly in texture. I liken this to the repetetive stress reaction of skin thickening on the palm from hammering, shoveling, etc... You guys that have been playing for a long time probably don't notice this anymore, but I can definately notice it. I kinda think of it as my "guitar fingertip callouses". It is not an external lump. or a dead skin patch, just a different texture right at the vibrating part of my upper lip.

Fudleysmith

That makes a lot of sense. After all the lips are being put through a great deal of stress and I think that it is a part of getting a better tone as we progress.

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MrLT Pianissimo User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 78	the lips themselves play a fairly passive role - they just need to be held in such a way as to vibrate freely and thats the job of all the muscles surrounding the mouth and face - the embouchure
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trickg Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 2,054	My wife has said that my lips got softer when I took a year and a half break from playing trumpet and that they hardened back up when I started playing again - kind of the difference between muscle and flab. Two people can both have 16" biceps, but the guy who lifts weights all the time is going to have a harder bicep than the person who is simply overweight. I don't know if this is an applicable analogy or not. Just a thought.
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03-27-2006, 08:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	"just the embouchure"? The lips are part of the embouchure. The entire embouchure is strengthened with the right practice.

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Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	What they said. ML

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Fudleysmith Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Niantic, CT Posts: 100	I have found that since my comeback started (14 months) that the soft, moist tissue just inside the visible pink part of my upper lip has changed very slightly in texture. I liken this to the repetetive stress reaction of skin thickening on the palm from hammering, shoveling, etc... You guys that have been playing for a long time probably don't notice this anymore, but I can definately notice it. I kinda think of it as my "guitar fingertip callouses". It is not an external lump. or a dead skin patch, just a different texture right at the vibrating part of my upper lip. Fudleysmith

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