I'd be so afraid to take one out of the house.....
I'd be so afraid to take one out of the house.....
Wild Thing Bb
Wild Thing Flugel
The modern Monette trumpets are designed for use with Monette mouthpieces. If you don't use a Monette mouthpiece, don't bother.
I played one a few years back with my GR and they did not mesh well. The horn was very, very, very responsive and sounded great, but it did not perform at its best without a Monette mouthpiece in it.
The models made years back in Chicago could handle a non-Monette mouthpiece. I once sat in a section with Matt Comerford, who spent a year as the 2nd trumpet in the Chicago Symphony. This was back in 1987 and he sounded great on his new Monette with a Bach mouthpiece.
When Herseth was using a Monette, he asked Dave to build him a horn that was a cross between a rotary and his Bach C. Bud eventually went back to his Bach (please, spare the comments about the switch back to Bach) but did acknowledge the horn did exactly what he wanted.
Its quite entertaining reading opinions on Monette trumpets.
I especially like the verbage extolling Monette's genius and the unique qualities of his instruments.
Its so orthogonal to what professional horn designers know (sans D.M. of course) that one just must
chuckle at the overwhelming confidence people place in speculative ignorance.
Stop acting like someone shot your dog.
No problem for me over the prices of the instruments. They are what they are, but how a mouthpiece can cost that much is a puzzle.
''I'm nearly as good as I need to be,
but not nearly as good as I'd like to be".
~Wild Thing Trumpet~ Eclipse Enigma Trumpet ~
~Kanstul 1525 Flugel ~ Smith Watkins K2 Cornet ~
~ Besson Bugle ~ JP152 C Trumpet ~
it is amazing how professional horn designers ARE taking Dave Monettes lead. Back in the early 90s when Monettes horns were getting really heavy, he was alone. Want to count how many companies now have heavier horns in the line up? Selmer, Courtois, Harrelson, Taylor, Getzen, NYTC........... Heck, even Schilke now has a HD heavier horn series......
What about scratch finish? What about weighted valve caps, sheet bracing? What about the price............ There IS a market for expensive custom horns.
The speculative ignorance is universal. We have enough players here that criticize the Strad that they have never played either.
Dave does not claim to reinvent the wheel, but he is very open about giving players other choices than they get with the Bach clones.
Definition of ORTHOGONAL
1a: intersecting or lying at right angles
b: having perpendicular slopes or tangents at the point of intersection <orthogonal curves>
2: having a sum of products or an integral that is zero or sometimes one under specified conditions: as
a of real-valued functions : having the integral of the product of each pair of functions over a specific interval equal to zero
b of vectors : having the scalar product equal to zero
c of a square matrix : having the sum of products of corresponding elements in any two rows or any two columns equal to one if the rows or columns are the same and equal to zero otherwise : having a transpose with which the product equals the identity matrix
3 of a linear transformation : having a matrix that is orthogonal : preserving length and distance
4: composed of mutually orthogonal elements <an orthogonal basis of a vector space>
5: statistically independent
I guess you mean there is a point of intersection between Monette and other instruments. I agree - up to a point
Conspicuous consumption? Maybe for some. The colleagues that I have with Monettes just play them. They make no noise about them.
Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.
Those CNC milling machines don't pay for themselves! I know some guys here can relate to the costs of tooling for a serious custom fabrication shop. (Ivan!?)
Plus you have the marketing panache.... Look what Botti did for 60 year old Martins. Wynton did the same for Monette. He could charge $20k and will keep selling as many as he wants to make.
Some serious violins have TWO commas in the price tag! Just the BOWS cost more than our trumpets!
I was a little surprised at the prices a year ago, but since then I've found my baby, the Olds Recording, I don't really care anymore.
I doubt that I'll ever buy one (who knows???), but I certainly would like to make a visit to the shop. I need a new Prana mouthpiece anyway to fit my Recording better. If you don't care about the prices, the visit will be a lot more fun. Yes, I'd like to try a few Monette trumpets out, but before I do that, I won't comment on how good they are (I have no idea).
And ditto what Jjarby said about violins. Relatively speaking, trumpet players get off easy.... My ex's was $15,000 (250 years old), and her bow cost $1500. And she is a teaching professional who didn't play in orchestras until recently. She never talked about it (I asked her) and treats it like a pro instrument, no more no less. It's insured. She won't play anything else, except for a trip to Mexico, where she took a cheap one (and a cheap bow). Of course, she eneded up sitting in with a hot Mexican jazz band (I got a great recording on a handheld digital recorder) and later said she wished she had brought her good violin.
Last edited by turtlejimmy; 11-18-2011 at 09:25 AM.
Trumpets are for extroverts - Lee Morgan
'bout the price of an intermediate-pro bassoon.
Glad I play trumpet.
Surprised though that the P1C isn't in the standard line-up anymore - Manny's horn and probably my favorite horn I've ever had the opportunity to play
Bb: Courtois 305 "Elite", Holton Al Hirt Special (~1966), Benge 3x with Upturned bell (1973)
C: Bach C180-239 (Akwright conversion),
Cornet: Conn Wonder (1900)
Picc: Selmer Paris, ~1971
In the email I received it said that every horn is made to order, kind of like burger king except it takes up to a year to get it.
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