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See, that's the thing...I am still a newb on this stuff....I could've sworn that a teacher of mine a couple years ago played on just the B-flat pipe. I was hoping someone on TM would be able to tell me all the fun little things that I don't know yet.
oh yeah.....I went and bought all sorts of fun music today. It has been a blast playing on this horn.
Also, I just got a phone call asking for Picc for an Easter service that I am playing, so I am very happy I bought it.
My trumpet teacher plays a Schilke pic and he pulls the slide out to play in A. I've played on about two or three and all of them played in A with the slide out. I know Blackburn builds a leadpipe specifically for Schilkes to play in A. Hope this helps.
P5-4A - no A pipe
I have a Schilke picc. I've had it for many years. MINE didn't come with an A pipe. You just pull the slide to play in A.
The Schilke picc leadpipe takes a cornet shank on the mouthpiece. I've never really liked that, but lived with it. My two previous piccs were a Courtois four valve (which DID come with two pipes) and a Couesnon 3 valve. The Schilke out-performed both from an intonation point of view.
Now, quite a few years ago, Jerry Callet was marketing an A-leadpipe for a Schilke picc. HIS A-pipe, however, took a trumpet shank, but since it was a little bigger, for that purpose, he didn't make a B-flat pipe. There had to be some lengthy taper to it.
That Callet A pipe was the best thing I've ever played on my Schilke picc. At the time I was pretty broke, or I would have bought it. I have regretted it ever since. It blew easier, had a warmer tone and plyed perfectly in tune. I wish I knew where to get one of those things now!
In any case, Schilke didn't send you an A pipe, becuase the horn doesn't have one, unless they have changed the design.
Thanks everyone, You just saved me $125
Re: P5-4A - no A pipe
yeah, my P5-4 didn't come with an A pipe either
Originally Posted by NickD
"Take care of your fundamentals and your fundamentals will take care of you"
"Don't practice for 'something', practice 'everything' and you'll be ready for ANYTHING"
Bb-Bach Strad 43
C- Bach Strad 229 25H
Picc - Schilke P54 Gold Plated
I tune my horn in A and Bb before a job and simply make a dark mark with a pencil for each. That mark with last about one job and then I wipe it off assuming that I will not be playing at the same place the next job. That makes it easy to go back and forth between A/Bb in one job. I just like the way certain tunes lay on each side of the horn. Sometimes I'll switch 3-4 times on one gig, and the mark makes that possible with no trouble at all.
You also need to be aware that a slight adjustment is necessary on the valve slides when making a change so the horn plays in tume with itself.
C - Harrelson 750 Modified Bach Strad
Picc - Schilke P5-4
Flugel - Kanstul ZKF1525
Bb - Bach Strad 180ML-37
Bb - Bach Strad LT 180L-43
Doesn't Blackburn make a killer pipe for that horn? A friend has a Schilke picc with a Blackburn A pipe. As good as the Schilke horn is, but Blackburn pipe made a big difference in it.
"Music is a fire in your belly that has to come out of your mouth, so you'd better put a horn in the way before someone gets hurt"
1949/50 Super Recording
1949 Martin Committee
1947 Olds Super
Olds Super/Ultrasonic trumpet
Olds Recording trumpet
Eclipse MR scratch gold
Buescher Mdl 15 Cornet in Bb/C/A (Dad's old horn)
Boston 3 Star Ne Plus Ultra
Natural trumpet hand made by my friend Howard Scudder
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