New valves / valve-block for Monette horns?

Robert Rowe · 04-13-2006, 10:16 AM

ML --

(This may be more appropriate for the "Horns" Forum-topic; but, I figured you would be the "go-to guy" for "things Monette").

What's with the new Monette proprietary valves / valve-block?

Have you tried, yet? Were there problems with the Getzen-sourced units ... (can't imagine that)?

Robt Rowe

Manny Laureano · 04-13-2006, 12:24 PM

I wouldn't venture to speculate as to what Dave's dealings with Getzen were. I just know he has always had a nice relationship with the folks over there.

The new valve block is the single biggest change since the whole Prana thing. The feel and play of the horn is beyond fabulous. I don't know how you take a product like his and coninually improve it in such significant ways. It's like we who play them say "This is amazing, it can't get any better" and he continually says "Thanks but yes, it can". It's even freer than before which is pretty bloody free.

ML

matthoffner · 04-13-2006, 07:27 PM

Manny,

Do you know if the new valve block is an option for someone who has an older Monette - or is this a feature that only comes on new horns?

-Matt

Manny Laureano · 04-13-2006, 07:34 PM

Matt,

I asked him that very question and, sadly, no, it's not a retro-fit process. It's an organic one that goes with the newer horns.

ML

ebtromba · 04-14-2006, 01:00 AM

I can already hear legions of dentists, doctors, and lawyers writing checks...

Tootsall · 04-14-2006, 11:25 AM

I had a salesman tell me "It's the enthusiastic amateur with the means who makes the best instruments affordable for the professionals"

Manny Laureano · 04-14-2006, 12:34 PM

You know, Toots... there's a lot of truth to that. In knowing Dave's history (I keep referring to that because he's the only trumpet maker I've seen grow from the start) Many people that were very supportive of his work were amateurs and collectors. What is interesting is these folks, because they were not pros but music lovers, had no axes to grind about making trumpets. They just knew that they couldn't make certain horns work and were receptive to ideas that working trumpeters with different responsibilities weren't receptive to. "You want me to what? Change the way I sit stand/stand/breathe and start thinking about yoga? Man, I got a gig to play and the way I've been doing it seems to be just fine so forget it."

The amateurs and collectors didn't have that attitude and Dave was able to discover how far he could take certain sound/body use issues.

Obviously, hearing and watching pros play was a huge part of the development of his horns but, Toots, I think that was a very astute thing you said. We never hear about what Vincent Bach or Ren Schilke regarding the people that supported their ideas early on. It would be fascinating.

Doctoral thesis, anyone?

ML

ebtromba · 04-14-2006, 03:53 PM

ah yes, because when I think 'monette', I think 'affordable'.

(please don't take any this seriously, I just gotta keep you monetters on your toes somehow...

)

...this is the only way to get to the forte club, right??

wiseone2 · 04-14-2006, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebtromba

ah yes, because when I think 'monette', I think 'affordable'.

(please don't take any this seriously, I just gotta keep you monetters on your toes somehow...

)

...this is the only way to get to the forte club, right??

My eyes!
Wilmer

JackD · 04-14-2006, 04:46 PM

So what is the new valve block? Made in house or...?

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04-13-2006, 12:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	I wouldn't venture to speculate as to what Dave's dealings with Getzen were. I just know he has always had a nice relationship with the folks over there. The new valve block is the single biggest change since the whole Prana thing. The feel and play of the horn is beyond fabulous. I don't know how you take a product like his and coninually improve it in such significant ways. It's like we who play them say "This is amazing, it can't get any better" and he continually says "Thanks but yes, it can". It's even freer than before which is pretty bloody free. ML

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matthoffner Pianissimo User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minneapolis, MN/Yankton, SD Posts: 69	Manny, Do you know if the new valve block is an option for someone who has an older Monette - or is this a feature that only comes on new horns? -Matt

04-13-2006, 07:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	Matt, I asked him that very question and, sadly, no, it's not a retro-fit process. It's an organic one that goes with the newer horns. ML

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Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	I had a salesman tell me "It's the enthusiastic amateur with the means who makes the best instruments affordable for the professionals"

04-14-2006, 12:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	You know, Toots... there's a lot of truth to that. In knowing Dave's history (I keep referring to that because he's the only trumpet maker I've seen grow from the start) Many people that were very supportive of his work were amateurs and collectors. What is interesting is these folks, because they were not pros but music lovers, had no axes to grind about making trumpets. They just knew that they couldn't make certain horns work and were receptive to ideas that working trumpeters with different responsibilities weren't receptive to. "You want me to what? Change the way I sit stand/stand/breathe and start thinking about yoga? Man, I got a gig to play and the way I've been doing it seems to be just fine so forget it." The amateurs and collectors didn't have that attitude and Dave was able to discover how far he could take certain sound/body use issues. Obviously, hearing and watching pros play was a huge part of the development of his horns but, Toots, I think that was a very astute thing you said. We never hear about what Vincent Bach or Ren Schilke regarding the people that supported their ideas early on. It would be fascinating. Doctoral thesis, anyone? ML

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JackD Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Manchester / London Posts: 763	So what is the new valve block? Made in house or...?

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