Newbie question on valves

timleona · 01-11-2008, 02:43 PM

I just got a Blessing XL-TR for Christmas that I'm using to return to the trumpet after 40 years away. I played the coronet in school and don't recognize 2 of the valves attached to valve 1 and valve 3. I've attached a photo from WWBW catalog with arrows pointing at the valves. I assume they are to lower the pitch under some conditions. Can someone advise me?

Yes, I will be seeking out an instructor soon.

Thanks much!
Tim

oldlou · 01-11-2008, 02:51 PM

Those are not valves. They are tunable slides, used to correct some slightly sharp notes in the scale. At one time, these were the mark of a pro horn. I learned to 'lip' those slightly sharp notes downward without the aid of a first valve trigger. My horn did have a third valve slide ring for that same function,though. It was a 1929 King Silvertone trumpet that was actually pretty close on intonation without any extra effort on my part being needed.

Good luck on your comeback.

OLDLOU>>

Richard Oliver · 01-11-2008, 04:06 PM

Yup. Kick 'em out for middle C# and the 3rd one for middle D. Your ear will guide you as to how much, little, any, one, or both.

1st line E might like some as might 1st space F.

slybootz · 02-04-2008, 01:56 AM

get some slide grease and get them cleaned up

jfernandez · 02-04-2008, 04:05 PM

the tuning slides, are mainly used when the third button is pressed, like when playing low D, or Eb. they are slightly sharp, and the tuning slide should be pulled out to fix the problem

AngelofMusic · 02-04-2008, 09:37 PM

Actually it's a common misconception that the third valve tuning slide is used for everytime you use the third valve. The third valve slide is used on Middle C# and the D just above that. The first valve tuning slide is used for the E just above that D, the A above that, the C# above that, sometimes on the F above that(if it's sharp), and the A above the staff.
Those notes are in order from lowest to highest.

OG

01-11-2008, 02:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
oldlou Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 591	Re: Newbie question on valves Those are not valves. They are tunable slides, used to correct some slightly sharp notes in the scale. At one time, these were the mark of a pro horn. I learned to 'lip' those slightly sharp notes downward without the aid of a first valve trigger. My horn did have a third valve slide ring for that same function,though. It was a 1929 King Silvertone trumpet that was actually pretty close on intonation without any extra effort on my part being needed. Good luck on your comeback. OLDLOU>> __________________ Couturier trumpet York Master Model trumpet York Elite trumpet York Airflow cornet King super 20 Master Model cornet King Liberty trumpet Reynolds Professional cornet Bohm & Meinl professional trumpet Besson 10-10 trumpet with Holton M.F. bell Olds Special cornet Los Angeles B&H Sovereign cornet G.R.Band Instr. cornet Getzen Super Deluxe trumpet and cornet Getzen Deluxe trumpet and cornet Many others no room to list

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Richard Oliver Forte User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Casper, WY Posts: 1,206	Re: Newbie question on valves Yup. Kick 'em out for middle C# and the 3rd one for middle D. Your ear will guide you as to how much, little, any, one, or both. 1st line E might like some as might 1st space F.

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slybootz Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 51	Re: Newbie question on valves get some slide grease and get them cleaned up __________________ Currently transcribing: Kenny Dorham Currently arranging: John Cheetham's 'Scherzo' Currently arranging: Harry James's 'The Truth'

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jfernandez Piano User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: N.C., USA Posts: 386	Re: Newbie question on valves the tuning slides, are mainly used when the third button is pressed, like when playing low D, or Eb. they are slightly sharp, and the tuning slide should be pulled out to fix the problem

02-04-2008, 09:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
AngelofMusic Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 686	Re: Newbie question on valves Actually it's a common misconception that the third valve tuning slide is used for everytime you use the third valve. The third valve slide is used on Middle C# and the D just above that. The first valve tuning slide is used for the E just above that D, the A above that, the C# above that, sometimes on the F above that(if it's sharp), and the A above the staff. Those notes are in order from lowest to highest. OG __________________

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