Boy, you guys sure killed this thread. Nicely done.
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"Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
Martin Committee (1956)
Connstellation 38B (1959)
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If it doesn't flow like you want it to then you can check the score more closely and make some micro changes to help MuseScore play it better, or add your own notation which you are sure the human player will be able to read (and obey).
In computer language terms you might say the first approach is like detailed, pedantic programming, while the second approach involves the application of some fuzzy logic.
Or yet another way, the first approach adjusts the hardware response, the second approach influences the wetware.
In Ivan's example, and some of the responses, I suspect that unless the change in the way the notes are written actually resolves to something different, the programmed machine will not play it any differently, but the programmed human may well.
...haven't read all 8 pages of this thread, but...
I think trying to get musical notation to accurately reflect phrasing would be like spelling the Inglish lang-wage fone-et-a-cal-ee.
Enough is anuff.
It's quite interesting seeing this from the opposite perspective.
It's nearly twenty years since I lived close to a handy music shop, so when I've come across a tune I've liked, I've tended to play along to the recording until I've got it more-or-less off pat, and then transcribed it down onto manuscript.
Occasionally, I'll come across an 'official' copy somewhere, and the differences can be very interesting. Most blues and swing numbers as Kehaulani notes, will be written in 'straight' 4/4 as opposed to the compound time of my transcription. And also, many trumpet parts originally written for other instruments will have been 'doctored' to make them more easily playable on the trumpet.
And one advantage of learning tunes by ear from a preferred recording is that a first bash at the musical interpretation comes FOC without having to start from scratch with the raw manuscript.
Bb Trumpets: Yamaha YTR-6335HSII - Flip Oakes "Wild Thing" - 1972 Getzen Eterna "Severinsen" - 1980 Boosey & Hawkes Sovereign Studio - B&S 3005 WTR-L - 1963 Besson 10-10 - Monke Mystery Horn - Spiri Vario
C Trumpet: Inderbinen Alpha 200
Bb Bass: 1961 Holton #58 "Symphony"
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Of tonal languages, a funny thing happened a few years back when I decided to learn some Mandarin because I was doing a fair bit of work in Asia. My chosen mode for learning was audio lessons which I could do in my car and refresh on long flights.
In a bar with a few colleagues, I decided to test my new "skills" when ordering a beer. I was greeted with stunned silence from my mates! Horrified that I may have accidentally said something nasty by using the wrong inflection, I asked what was wrong. One of them replied "nothing wrong, you speak exactly Chinese"
A written and read lesson would've been totally unable to arrive at this outcome.
As to English being "concise, efficient and flexible"? Flexible - yes, concise and efficient - no way. To build on the example of English being used as a programming language, program design often involves trade-offs between functionality and ease of use. English is incredible functional, but can be difficult to drive.
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Conn 22B '37, Frank Holton (early - '23?) "Patent Applied For"
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plus various projects, whims and follies
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Nobody has learned how to play the trumpet. It's endless. - Maynard Ferguson
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By the inch it's a cinch, by the yard, it's hard!
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