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![]() | Out of tune... Today I was practicng and wanted to see if I was in tune. So I pulled out my Korg Chromatic Tuner CA-30 and began tuning. It turned I was out of tune, flat. So I push in the tuning slide a little, tried again and still, flat. So I ended up pushing the tuning slide all the way in! And still it read B or Bb when I played a low C! The tuner is at 440 Hz, which I think is normal. Every note I played seemed to be flat! My piano is even out of tune so I cant't depend on that!lol My director told me last year, that sometimes the humidity can play a major role in being in or out of tune. My house is only around 60% humidity. My trumpet should always be at room temp., because I have it stand 24/7! I don't even think the tuner is reading Concert-wise, because when I push any key my piano it reads the note I played (But it reads it being either b or #). So I have no clue as to what to do next! In school it seemed to be fine, when I was in band class. I don't think it's my tuner, maybe my trumpet or the weather is affecting it! So if anybody knows what's going on I'd really appreciate it! Thanks!, Bach219
__________________ Bach TR300 Vincent Bach 7C & Vincent Bach Corp 10.5C I didn't want to get that ring around my lips from practicing the trumpet, because I thought the girls wouldn't like me. So I never practiced.- Wynton Marsalis Last edited by Bach219; 07-07-2008 at 10:08 PM. |
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![]() ![]() | Re: Out of tune... For trumpet you need a "Pitch Finder" from the Chase Sanborn web site. I have the pitch finder and his book on tuning. The pitch finder can be set for trumpet, B flat, and will will read correctly.
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![]() | Re: Out of tune... Ummm... I'm not 100% sure, but if you're playing on a Bb trumpet, the note we read as "c" should be reading as a Bb on a tuner. Also, tuning is very relative, a note that is 10 cents off is not particularly noticeable (necessarily). I don't think its something is wrong, I think its just practice (the last answer anyone wants to hear)
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| Pianissimo User | Re: Out of tune... Piano is in concert pitch, so a C on the piano will read as a C on your tuner, but sound as a D on your (Bb) trumpet. Tune the third space C on your trumpet to the tuner (it will read a Bb). Then put the tuner away and play in tune. Duets with people who are better than you, ensembles, etc. Stuart |
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![]() | Re: Out of tune... So if I tune G, it'll say F on the tuner, right? Because it's concert pitch.
__________________ Bach TR300 Vincent Bach 7C & Vincent Bach Corp 10.5C I didn't want to get that ring around my lips from practicing the trumpet, because I thought the girls wouldn't like me. So I never practiced.- Wynton Marsalis |
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![]() | Re: Out of tune... Yes. On the Bb trumpet all written notes sound a whole step lower on the tuner. Written C is concert Bb, written Bb is Concert Ab. Has your band director never said play Bb scale and you play your C scale? Also the TR300 leadpipe is really short so you almost never push it in all the way. (unless it's REALLY cold.)
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| New Friend | Re: Out of tune... try another tuner and see if you still have the same problem. also, clean your horn. sometimes if crud gets built up in there, it may change the waveform of the vibration. waterkey leak? are you practicing in a mute? if so, are the corks shot? "need input" - No. 5 Drew |
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![]() | Re: Out of tune... I'll amplify what has already been said. I believe the Korg tuner reads concert pitch. Playing a "C" on your Bb trumpet should read Bb on the tuner. Chase's Pitch Finder can be adjusted to read concert pitch or Bb. |
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![]() | Re: Out of tune... You guys are right! It is concert pitch! I mean usually when I use tuners it tells me the note I'm actually playing, not in concert pitch! I just got done practicing and tuned my trumpet, so everything is totally fine now!!! Oh yeah almost forgot, where do I get this pitch finder? I went on the website, but can't seem to find it! Thank you all! Bach219
__________________ Bach TR300 Vincent Bach 7C & Vincent Bach Corp 10.5C I didn't want to get that ring around my lips from practicing the trumpet, because I thought the girls wouldn't like me. So I never practiced.- Wynton Marsalis Last edited by Bach219; 07-08-2008 at 11:53 AM. |
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