Piccolo Trumpet Prices

trpguyy · 06-20-2004, 05:26 PM

Why are piccolo trumpets so much more expensive than "regular" trumpets? I've noticed that the higher pitched the trumpet, the more expensive. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Smaller horns= less material. Sure, there's a fourth valve, but that doesn't cost an extra $600. Piccolo trumpets can't be that much harder to make. Is it just a matter of supply and demand? Anyone have any ideas?

musicalmason · 06-20-2004, 06:04 PM

my guess is, since theres really no beginner or intermidiate picc trumpet, it has to go right to pro, and since only pros are buying them, only the best will sell, and picc trumpet prices are on par with the "best" Bb trumpets. not only that, but few rich parents are buying picc trumpets for the 8th grader, as often happens with strads and pro Bb horns, so the market base is much smaller, therefor, as you mentioned, supply and demand must also play a major role in the price.

MUSICandCHARACTER · 06-20-2004, 06:29 PM

I agree with MM, and would add that they are hard to play in tune when you have a high quality one. Therefore, great care must be taken in the design and building of them. Even good manufacturers have failed at making a decent piccolo. They take more time and care to build -- making them labor intensive.

Jim

mheffernen5 · 06-20-2004, 07:47 PM

If piccolo trumpets are expensive they must be really hard to play.

musicalmason · 06-20-2004, 08:14 PM

Quote:

If piccolo trumpets are expensive they must be really hard to play.

I dont even wanna try a monette.

MUSICandCHARACTER · 06-20-2004, 09:58 PM

I love it. Using (inappropriately) the rules of logic you get:

Piccolo trumpets are hard to make to play in tune
This means they cost more to make
The Monette is the most expensive
Therefore, it is the hardest to play.

Now the real question is, why is this logic statement false?

Jim

Tootsall · 06-20-2004, 10:01 PM

Uh..... because it is an illogical sequence of loosely or even randomly connected statements? :?

MUSICandCHARACTER · 06-20-2004, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tootsall

Uh..... because it is an illogical sequence of loosely or even randomly connected statements? :?

False relationship.

More expensive piccolos are not harder to play.

Piccolo trumpets are hard to make that play well.
It takes more labor to make a good playing Piccolo
Labor cost more money
Therefore, Piccolos cost more money.

All those statements are true.

But cost and quality only correlate to a certain extent and not in a absolute fashion. Hence a true bargain is to get a high quality product for less money than expected.

I have a headache now.

Jim

Tootsall · 06-20-2004, 10:17 PM

Take two aspirin and call me in the morning.

timcates · 06-20-2004, 11:31 PM

so if a trumpet weighs the same as a duck?........a witch!!! a witch!!!

(Dave Monette turned me into a newt.....

....... i got better)

[/python]

06-20-2004, 05:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
trpguyy Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 288	Piccolo Trumpet Prices Why are piccolo trumpets so much more expensive than "regular" trumpets? I've noticed that the higher pitched the trumpet, the more expensive. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Smaller horns= less material. Sure, there's a fourth valve, but that doesn't cost an extra $600. Piccolo trumpets can't be that much harder to make. Is it just a matter of supply and demand? Anyone have any ideas?

06-20-2004, 06:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
musicalmason Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 192	my guess is, since theres really no beginner or intermidiate picc trumpet, it has to go right to pro, and since only pros are buying them, only the best will sell, and picc trumpet prices are on par with the "best" Bb trumpets. not only that, but few rich parents are buying picc trumpets for the 8th grader, as often happens with strads and pro Bb horns, so the market base is much smaller, therefor, as you mentioned, supply and demand must also play a major role in the price.
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MUSICandCHARACTER Forte User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Newburgh, Indiana Posts: 1,165	I agree with MM, and would add that they are hard to play in tune when you have a high quality one. Therefore, great care must be taken in the design and building of them. Even good manufacturers have failed at making a decent piccolo. They take more time and care to build -- making them labor intensive. Jim
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06-20-2004, 09:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
MUSICandCHARACTER Forte User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Newburgh, Indiana Posts: 1,165	I love it. Using (inappropriately) the rules of logic you get: Piccolo trumpets are hard to make to play in tune This means they cost more to make The Monette is the most expensive Therefore, it is the hardest to play. Now the real question is, why is this logic statement false? Jim
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Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Uh..... because it is an illogical sequence of loosely or even randomly connected statements? :?

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Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Take two aspirin and call me in the morning.

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timcates Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas - USA Posts: 81	so if a trumpet weighs the same as a duck?........a witch!!! a witch!!! (Dave Monette turned me into a newt..... ....... i got better) [/python]

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