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| Piano User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indianapolis
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![]() | In Place of French Horn My brass quintet has been silent for about two years due to several reasons, my trombone player got lung cancer, bass player had another kid and the most important reason trying to get a decent French horn player that is dependable and willing to rehearse and play some freebies. We are [were] a decent group that gelled together and had the same outlook when it came to playing - we played retirement homes and churches for free unless the church had us play with their choir and needed an added reh. My question is has anyone ever played the F.H. part on a Eb trumpet? I guess this would be an easy transposition, but how would the part sound played on a trumpet compared to a F.H. ? Dave
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| Fortissimo User | Re: In Place of French Horn Dave, why not play the parts on a flugel? The sound is "fairly" similar...large and broad. I'm not "into" the transposing scene (me bad) but would it be any more or less difficult than to an Eb? Feel free to blow holes in the suggestion but I've seen/heard guys in our band cover french horn parts in the past with flugel and it doesn't sound that bad. |
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![]() | Re: In Place of French Horn Hi, I live in what some consider to be the armpit of the universe. It makes Capser, WY look like a metropolis. No French hornists here but a there was spare trumpeter that could handle a brass quartet gig. I found an old Buescher mellophone on ebay and away we went. Sounded pretty good if I do say so myself. I've seen Getzen frumpets used or even an alto sax player that transposed in place of the horn. Purists may shudder but when the supply of players is limited you have to improvise. Good luck, Brian
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![]() | Re: In Place of French Horn I have a friend who majored in music [classical trumpet] all through college and has a D-Eb trumpet and said it would be an easy do with the Eb. I hope it doesn't sound weird or something before I offered to let him play, would really hate to invite a friend and then say -sorry charlie.
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| Forte User | Re: In Place of French Horn If I would you I would go for Tenor Horn in E flat. A trumpet p-layer can easily learn it and would not be too difficult for a trumpet player to double on a Tenor Horn. If you want to unify the group more and make it more standard, you can replace the 2 trumpets by cornets and you will get Brass band style quintet.
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![]() | Re: In Place of French Horn The Eb trumpet will, most probably, be a small one, meaning that the horn parts will be played up an octave from where they were intended. In many arrangements this will make the voicing very peculiar. I would go along with those people suggesting a flugel (especially if you have access to a 4 valve one - some of those horn parts go quite low) - the sound will be closer to the mellowness of the horn and you will be able to perform the parts in the octave in which they were intended. |
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| Forte User | Re: In Place of French Horn Another possibility is the valved corno de caccia, and manny of them are 4 valve...The sound will be even closer to french horn than the flugel (which is a good replacement too) especially when used with a deep V cup mouthpiece...I have used one quite succesfully with DW4FL though it was in an octet that I wrote myself and the part was written for that particular instrument.
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