playing really well.....with a mute

gregc · 05-05-2007, 12:29 AM

Help me make sense of this, if you can. Tonight, I played late. Since we have in house/ stay over visitors this week, I used a Soto Voce mute. For some reaaon it added about 2 whole steps to my comfort range, I could articulate nice up high and I played ~2/3 of the Hummel better than ever before. The parts I usually struggle with were real do-able. There's gotta be a lesson here. Resistance? Use of air? I must be close to finding something (?) Can you helpe me make some good sense with this? If I can play like this with the mute out I will be a happy camper....... for a while, he he he .
Thanks,

adohanian · 05-05-2007, 04:15 PM

It's probably a combination of things. Resistance could be part if it, you could also have been having a good day, and would have had similar results, without the mute. There could also be a mental aspect to it, that playing with the mute freed you from trying to play with the "perfect" sound, and so you were just a little looser than normal. You should try again with the mute and see if you get the same results, and if you do, take the mute out and see what it sounds like and compares to what you normally sound like. Just a couple of thoughts, hope it helps

adam

rowuk · 05-07-2007, 07:41 AM

The lesson is in the balance of pressure in front of and behind the lips.
If the pressure is about the same, the AIR supports the lips and the amount of work needed to "create" sound is reduced. The mute increased the backpressure from the horn and helped you play with less effort.
This is also why I don't think bored out throats are generally a good thing. It seems like an easier blow, but in most cases that I have experienced, the lip support from the horn/mouthpiece side is greatly reduced (as is also the slotting)!

gregc · 05-08-2007, 02:40 PM

Thanks to both of you for some good thoughts and ideas. I think a lot of whay you both say is 'in play'. It's a good thing. I'm learning. I'm getting better.

05-05-2007, 12:29 AM	#1
gregc Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, U.S. of A. Posts: 548	playing really well.....with a mute Help me make sense of this, if you can. Tonight, I played late. Since we have in house/ stay over visitors this week, I used a Soto Voce mute. For some reaaon it added about 2 whole steps to my comfort range, I could articulate nice up high and I played ~2/3 of the Hummel better than ever before. The parts I usually struggle with were real do-able. There's gotta be a lesson here. Resistance? Use of air? I must be close to finding something (?) Can you helpe me make some good sense with this? If I can play like this with the mute out I will be a happy camper....... for a while, he he he . Thanks, __________________ ______________ Greg Condemi Last edited by gregc; 05-05-2007 at 12:30 AM. Reason: spellin'

05-05-2007, 04:15 PM	#2
adohanian Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: boston Posts: 60	Re: playing really well.....with a mute It's probably a combination of things. Resistance could be part if it, you could also have been having a good day, and would have had similar results, without the mute. There could also be a mental aspect to it, that playing with the mute freed you from trying to play with the "perfect" sound, and so you were just a little looser than normal. You should try again with the mute and see if you get the same results, and if you do, take the mute out and see what it sounds like and compares to what you normally sound like. Just a couple of thoughts, hope it helps adam

05-07-2007, 07:41 AM	#3
rowuk Moderator Utimate User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 7,355	Re: playing really well.....with a mute The lesson is in the balance of pressure in front of and behind the lips. If the pressure is about the same, the AIR supports the lips and the amount of work needed to "create" sound is reduced. The mute increased the backpressure from the horn and helped you play with less effort. This is also why I don't think bored out throats are generally a good thing. It seems like an easier blow, but in most cases that I have experienced, the lip support from the horn/mouthpiece side is greatly reduced (as is also the slotting)! __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

05-08-2007, 02:40 PM	#4
gregc Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: New York, U.S. of A. Posts: 548	Re: playing really well.....with a mute Thanks to both of you for some good thoughts and ideas. I think a lot of whay you both say is 'in play'. It's a good thing. I'm learning. I'm getting better. __________________ ______________ Greg Condemi

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