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    Pianissimo User some_blue's Avatar
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    Q's - Re: wear and tear of my trumpet

    Hi All,
    Questions re wear and tear on trumpets, I'm looking at, right now, a couple of 'em that I've owned for say 5 to 25 years, Bach 37, Benge 1970's or so, a few others. I try to keep them in good shape, periodically with a cleaning, drying, oiling ... usually one gets used for a good long year or so, gets cleaned up and goes to sleep for a while.

    Had one valve-aligned a few years ago...

    Should I be replacing springs ... every thousand hours? every 500 hours? different types of springs material? Think I know the answer to this one ... probably should valve-aline again the one that had it, and do the same for the others.

    It seems that often, the horns valves are FINE at home, and then "act up" at other locations; and this has been going on for years!



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    Re: Q's - Re: wear and tear of my trumpet

    Not sure about the acting up when not at home. Personally, I wouldn't change springs until you feel they need it. My Olds Super is over 50 years old and has had a fair amount of playing over those years. Think it still has the same springs as when bought. I did increase one of the felts when I noticed very slight alignment problem. Also have a Strad that I've owned for 40 years and that has had a good amount of playing. Same springs. Only problem with it is some silverplate wear from outside playing in the heat (sweating) at one point in my career.

    Best of luck.

    Rotating through playing your horns is a good idea. I have a few that don't get out of the case, but try to put in at least a couple of days on each of my horns each year.
    Olds Supers, LA (1953), Ful. (1962)
    Olds Recording, LA (1952)
    Olds Studio, LA (1953)
    Olds Special, Ful. (1964)
    Olds Ambassador, LA (1954)
    Olds Ambassador, Ful. (1973)
    Bach Strads 37-(1967, 1970, 1974, 1982)
    Bach Strad 72 MLV (1973), 72* (1982)
    Kanstul 1500 (2002), 1502 (2008), 1503 (2002)
    Kanstul 1537 (2007)
    Kanstul Chicago (2000)
    Kanstul 1510 C
    King Liberty (1929,1929)
    King Liberty 2 (1938, 1944)
    King Liberty 2b (1950)
    J.H. Darby 45 USA
    Holton (Revelation) 1924
    Kanstul 1525 Flugelhorn

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    Re: Q's - Re: wear and tear of my trumpet

    The only times I have replaced springs are when I have felt the existing are too stiff or in an old horn purchase if they are mangled beyond repair.

    In 30 years of playing I have had one spring break, that was because the spring had a kink in it and one turn was rubbing on the casing and wore thin, I had not noticed.

    Valve alignment is the next thing I check on a new purchase after a cleaning bath.

    Regards, Stuart.

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    Re: Q's - Re: wear and tear of my trumpet

    Pretty sure the springs in my 103 year old cornet are original, and they work fine. As far as things going smoothly at home during practice and going haywire elsewhere? That would be me fingers!
    Mainly a 1958 Holton B47 Symphony for band
    and a Bach cr310 for Brass band

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    Re: Q's - Re: wear and tear of my trumpet

    As Steve said - my '46 Olds Super has it's original springs. The valves are still wonderful! Charlie did a valve alignment, and replaced the pads with synthetic. The pads are a little louder, but it will be a long long time before I should need another alignment.

    Only time you should change the springs is if they are too sprung, or too weak (valves don't spring back up quickly enough). Then I would take to Charlie and let him know if too hard or too soft, and let him replace with proper spring rate.

    BTW - Steve, I still look at your trumpet list and smile. You have it good!

    1957 Olds Recording
    1946 Olds Super LA (Brass Tone Ring)

    1972 Olds Super Star
    1973 LA Benge 3x
    1925 Conn New York Symphony 22
    CB Doubler's Flugel

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    Re: Q's - Re: wear and tear of my trumpet

    Thanks for the comments and advice, yeah, over time i wear out silver plate pretty noticeably, although it seems to last longer than lacquer.

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