Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too.

Patric_Bernard · 01-18-2008, 12:54 PM

Ok, lets say i'm starting over. I'm throwing the method of playing I used to use out the window and starting from scratch. I believe Rowuk said the place to start is taking proper breaths, and breathing correctly. Now I just read your thread on the kid with the problems while playing loud, and will start breathing like that. Where do I go after that? What should I start playing into my horn after I have the breathing down?

et_mike · 01-18-2008, 12:57 PM

Patric... why are you throwing your entire "method" of playing out the window?

Patric_Bernard · 01-18-2008, 01:02 PM

Not really my entier method. I"m gonna keep my chops, but I know that my breathing is wrong, and the way i strive for range is wrong. Thanks for pointing that out though... Requestion haha... Rowuk, teach me how to properly breath and keep the same relaxed breathing going into the upper registers.

et_mike · 01-18-2008, 01:09 PM

Ahhhh.... glad to hear it! You had me worried for a second!! lol.

Here check out this link....

Complete Breathing by Trumpet Player Rich Szabo - Jazz Trumpet Player, Clinician, Teacher and Big Band Leader

And now I'll back off so Rowuk can get in here and give you some solid advice!! ;)

Mike

Dr. Zink · 01-18-2008, 01:49 PM

I don't know if this may be of any use to you but a flute teacher once told me to note how you breathe when you are laying down. Apparently the body naturally has little choice but to breathe correctly when in that position. Recreating that when in a playing posture however, as I have found, is not necessarily an easy thing. A good experiment nonetheless.

Dr.Z

et_mike · 01-18-2008, 01:54 PM

Dr. Z, you should check out the above link too.. you might find it interesting... goes along with what that flute teacher was saying!!

Dr. Zink · 01-18-2008, 02:29 PM

Thanks, it does look interesting. Surely much food for thought if not practice. Sad to say it's also a topic I never really delved into. Never too late I suppose.

I'll tell you, I remember from my initial college days as a music ed major (dropped that real fast in favor of performance/history) way back when, that flute class was a real eye openner as far as breath control was concerned. See how long you can blow a steady tone on a beer bottle! The first isn't so bad, but after five and six... but I digress.

Dr.Z

et_mike · 01-18-2008, 02:33 PM

lol... I've come close to passing out trying to play the flute... I have nothing but respect!!

Richard Oliver · 01-18-2008, 02:53 PM

Patric, I see you hail from California.

Maybe a referral from TM's own Ed Carroll as to someone local who could help you in your endeavors?

Patric_Bernard · 01-18-2008, 03:13 PM

that may help... Do you happen to know anyone located in Sacramento that may be able to give me lessons? possibly free if there up to it since monies is really tight right now haha.

01-18-2008, 12:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Patric_Bernard Forte User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Brand: Bach, Schilke, Getzen Posts: 1,925	Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. Ok, lets say i'm starting over. I'm throwing the method of playing I used to use out the window and starting from scratch. I believe Rowuk said the place to start is taking proper breaths, and breathing correctly. Now I just read your thread on the kid with the problems while playing loud, and will start breathing like that. Where do I go after that? What should I start playing into my horn after I have the breathing down?
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01-18-2008, 12:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
et_mike Piano User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Brand: Schilke Posts: 353	Re: Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. Patric... why are you throwing your entire "method" of playing out the window?

01-18-2008, 01:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Patric_Bernard Forte User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Brand: Bach, Schilke, Getzen Posts: 1,925	Re: Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. Not really my entier method. I"m gonna keep my chops, but I know that my breathing is wrong, and the way i strive for range is wrong. Thanks for pointing that out though... Requestion haha... Rowuk, teach me how to properly breath and keep the same relaxed breathing going into the upper registers.
	__________________ Bach Omega Bach 3C Bach 3c Megatone Berkley Cornet Bach Cornet 3C Teachers Arbans book, Clarke Studies Book. Nick Drozdoff's online lessons and words of wisdom through email.

01-18-2008, 01:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
et_mike Piano User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Brand: Schilke Posts: 353	Re: Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. Ahhhh.... glad to hear it! You had me worried for a second!! lol. Here check out this link.... Complete Breathing by Trumpet Player Rich Szabo - Jazz Trumpet Player, Clinician, Teacher and Big Band Leader And now I'll back off so Rowuk can get in here and give you some solid advice!! ;) Mike

01-18-2008, 01:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dr. Zink Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Coast US Posts: 61	Re: Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. I don't know if this may be of any use to you but a flute teacher once told me to note how you breathe when you are laying down. Apparently the body naturally has little choice but to breathe correctly when in that position. Recreating that when in a playing posture however, as I have found, is not necessarily an easy thing. A good experiment nonetheless. Dr.Z

01-18-2008, 01:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
et_mike Piano User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Brand: Schilke Posts: 353	Re: Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. Dr. Z, you should check out the above link too.. you might find it interesting... goes along with what that flute teacher was saying!!

01-18-2008, 02:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dr. Zink Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Coast US Posts: 61	Re: Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. Thanks, it does look interesting. Surely much food for thought if not practice. Sad to say it's also a topic I never really delved into. Never too late I suppose. I'll tell you, I remember from my initial college days as a music ed major (dropped that real fast in favor of performance/history) way back when, that flute class was a real eye openner as far as breath control was concerned. See how long you can blow a steady tone on a beer bottle! The first isn't so bad, but after five and six... but I digress. Dr.Z

01-18-2008, 02:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
et_mike Piano User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Brand: Schilke Posts: 353	Re: Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. lol... I've come close to passing out trying to play the flute... I have nothing but respect!!

01-18-2008, 02:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Richard Oliver Forte User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Casper, WY Posts: 1,205	Re: Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. Patric, I see you hail from California. Maybe a referral from TM's own Ed Carroll as to someone local who could help you in your endeavors?

01-18-2008, 03:13 PM	#10 (permalink)
Patric_Bernard Forte User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Brand: Bach, Schilke, Getzen Posts: 1,925	Re: Question for Rowuk, and everyone else too. that may help... Do you happen to know anyone located in Sacramento that may be able to give me lessons? possibly free if there up to it since monies is really tight right now haha.
	__________________ Bach Omega Bach 3C Bach 3c Megatone Berkley Cornet Bach Cornet 3C Teachers Arbans book, Clarke Studies Book. Nick Drozdoff's online lessons and words of wisdom through email.

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